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142: 132人目の素数さん [] 2022/09/02(金) 23:43:39.49 ID:K8gWPGVv >>132 補足 ここ、下記のDR Tony Huynh のAnswer 2が参考になるな(私訳をつけた) https://mathoverflow.net/questions/151286/probabilities-in-a-riddle-involving-axiom-of-choice Probabilities in a riddle involving axiom of choice asked Dec 9 '13 at 16:16 Denis Answer 2 (answered Dec 9, 2013 Tony Huynh PhD in the Department of Combinatorics & Optimization at the University of Waterloo.) I also like this version of the riddle. To answer the actual question though, I would say that it is not possible to guess incorrectly with probability only 1/N, even for N=2. In order for such a question to make sense, it is necessary to put a probability measure on the space of functions f:N→R. Note that to execute your proposed strategy, we only need a uniform measure on {1,…,N}, but to make sense of the phrase it fails with probability at most 1/N, we need a measure on the space of all outcomes. The answer will be different depending on what probability space is chosen of course. Here's a concrete choice for a probability space that shows that your proposal will fail. Suppose that for each index i we sample a real number Xi from the normal distribution so that the Xis are independent random variables. If there is only person, no matter which boxes they view, they gain no information about the un-opened boxes due to independence. Thus, their probability of guessing correctly is actually 0, not (N-1)/N, say. If it were somehow possible to put a 'uniform' measure on the space of all outcomes, then indeed one could guess correctly with arbitrarily high precision, but such a measure doesn't exist. つづく http://rio2016.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/math/1660377072/142
522: 132人目の素数さん [] 2022/10/02(日) 07:29:37.49 ID:fbgrG592 なんで自然数全体を考えたがるんだろうね? 出題者がどんな数列を出題しようと回答者のターンでは決定番号の組は一つに固定されてるんだから 自然数全体を考える意味なんてまったく無いのに 知恵遅れなの? http://rio2016.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/math/1660377072/522
838: 132人目の素数さん [] 2022/10/19(水) 18:22:45.49 ID:DwfAJI7Z 時枝不成立は、非可測ではなく、非正則分布によるってこと それを、はっきりさせようってこと 別に困ってないよw http://rio2016.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/math/1660377072/838
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