[過去ﾛｸﾞ] Let's talk with Jim-san. Part5 (611ﾚｽ)
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1(3): 2007/05/07(月) 22:55:29 ID:eINQz6vM(1)調 AAS
Let's talk with Jim-san , who is the manager of bbspink.com.
If you can write your questions or some other things in English,
please write them in English.
Since Jim-san is very kind,
so that in case you get spelling error,
or write in incorrect grammar,
he will be able to understand what you want to say.
Those who cannot understand English may write them in Japanese.
Accommodating persons will translate for you.
このスレッドは、ピンクちゃんねるの管理人さんのジムさんと
英語でお話しようスレです。
英語できる人は、できれば英語で書いてくださいな。
ジムさんは、とってもやさしいので
文法とか単語のつづりが「かなり間違っている」英語でも
きっとわかってくれますよん。
英語はどうしても無理、って人は日本語でどうぞ。
親切な人がきっと翻訳してくれます。
Jim-san cap handle.
Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★
A previous thread
Let's talk with Jim-san. Part4
2chｽﾚ:erobbs
2: ◆79EROOYuCc 2007/05/08(火) 01:22:01 ID:ASTiI0F3(1)調 AAS
>>1さん スレ立てお疲れさまです、ありがとうございます。
>>1 thank you for your making this new thread.
3(1): ◆QE3get/L0E 2007/05/10(木) 13:14:25 ID:6seGkOeN(1)調 AAS
Itadakiさんの便利な翻訳ツール置いときますね
Let's talk with Jim-san!
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:2chs.net
4(1): Itadaki ◆QNUItadakI 2007/05/10(木) 14:02:23 ID:avJXe5p2(1)調 AAS
>>3 更新しました。
5: 2007/05/10(木) 14:09:47 ID:HeOawj//(1)調 AAS
>>4
乙つ！
6: ◆79EROOYuCc 2007/05/11(金) 15:13:50 ID:zOCALU0T(1)調 AAS
Itadakiさん、ありがとうございます。
thank you, Itadaki-san
7(4): 2007/05/16(水) 14:20:51 ID:UyFWCy9n(1)調 AAS
To Mr.JIM
Hello.
There is a question.
"Log of this site belongs to this all site" on a bulletin board of a personal website.
I do it All rights reserved without permission. When I reprinted it without permission, I sue. "
It was specified so.
However, there was the person whom I copied it and reprinted in Pink in defiance of it.
When there was a deletion request directly, should it be deleted from a webmaster of a reprinted website?
When a deletion person was accused without it being deleted, must a deletion person take responsibility?
（Japanese)
こんにちは。
質問があります。
他のウェブサイトの掲示板に
「当サイトのログは総て当サイトに帰属します。
無断転載禁止します。許可無く転載した場合、訴訟をします。」
そのように明記されていました。
しかし、それを無視してPinkにコピー転載した人物が居ました。
転載されたウェブサイトの管理人から削除依頼が直接あった時、それは消されるべきですか？
削除されず削除人が訴えられた時、削除人は責任を取らなければなりませんか？
8: 2007/05/16(水) 18:25:59 ID:z2Jw/9rm(1)調 AAS
>>7
転載した人を訴えずに転載先を訴えるのはおかしい。
おかしい要求は正義でなくテロです。
9: 2007/05/17(木) 19:44:43 ID:7PYly9BQ(1)調 AAS
ジムさん、アナルセックスをした事がありますか？気持ち良いですか？
10: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/05/18(金) 11:12:02 ID:i+NUOWym(1/2)調 AAS
>>7
I really don't understand this. Are you talking about requesting other sites
delete threads of bbspink that they have copied?
Like this for example:
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:best-thread.xrea.jp
11: 2007/05/18(金) 13:54:31 ID:b4PilfeD(1)調 AAS
たぶん逆
12(2): 2007/05/18(金) 14:06:09 ID:pkXNUzML(1)調 AAS
I am not >>7 but let me re-explain what he means:
There is a website stating "All the contents of this site are copyrighted. Anybody who
copy the contents without persmission will be prosecuted."
A person copied the contents and posted in a thread of BBSPINK without permission.
If the website master demand to delete the posting, does the deleter of BBSPINK have to
delete it? And if the deleter did not do so, does he have to take responsibility?
13(2): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/05/18(金) 18:11:32 ID:i+NUOWym(2/2)調 AAS
>>12 Oh I see. Well I think that the copyrights should always be
respected. Deletion is up to the deleter, but if I am given a correct notice
of copyright violation. I always delete that.
Violating copyright is the same thing as pirating.
Please make a link instead of copying, that is the best solution.
The poster is the one that is responsible for this though.
According to the US law, the poster is responsible, not the deleter.
The deleter has no responsibility.
14: 2007/05/18(金) 22:25:30 ID:eyvaeqzB(1)調 AAS
宣伝
とある人へのピンポイント告知
2chｽﾚ:offmatrix
そっち方面に行くからヨロシク
15(1): 12 2007/05/19(土) 01:16:16 ID:tbQ6p+Ex(1)調 AAS
>>7
Here is the translation of >>13
理解しました。実際、著作権は保護されるべきだと思います。
削除行為は削除人に一任されてはいますが、著作権侵害行為に
対する正当な申し出がある限り、私なら削除します。
著作権を侵害するということは、海賊行為と同じことです。
その行為の責任は投稿者ではありますが。
米国の法律によれば、責任は投稿者にあり、削除する側ではない
ため、削除人に責任はありません。
16(1): 2007/05/21(月) 21:44:14 ID:kH4EJ3tj(1)調 AAS
>>Jim-san
2chｽﾚ:erobbs
Please confirm a correct procedure to Mr. FOX.
17(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/05/22(火) 10:47:18 ID:kUZJdrEC(1/3)調 AAS
>>16
What are you talking about?
18(1): 2007/05/22(火) 10:56:33 ID:C4d/NDj2(1/3)調 AAS
>>17
外部ﾘﾝｸ:sakura01.bbspink.com
外部ﾘﾝｸ:sakura01.bbspink.com
外部ﾘﾝｸ:sakura01.bbspink.com
If the setting is correctly done, it becomes the following.
外部ﾘﾝｸ:pie.bbspink.com
When board is made, the setting is not completed.
19: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/05/22(火) 11:00:28 ID:kUZJdrEC(2/3)調 AAS
>>18
Those boards were made by Hiroyuki and I. We did it without help.
I know the system is a little different now, I would be very happy
with an update on the new procedures. especially on the servers
that I have had to move because they were so busy. That broke
the read.cgi on those kakolog servers.
20(1): 2007/05/22(火) 11:05:42 ID:C4d/NDj2(2/3)調 AAS
Why do not you question Greenday★?
"What are this talking about?"
Greenday★ understands the import of the story.
21(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/05/22(火) 12:58:17 ID:kUZJdrEC(3/3)調 AAS
>>20
Greenday★
Does not setup boards. Greenday★ is the deletion leader. That is a
separate function.
22: 2007/05/22(火) 13:40:13 ID:C4d/NDj2(3/3)調 AAS
>>21
The setting of added board (ccc/bbbb/megami) is not completed.
An old thread is not sent to kakolog.
Please confirm it to the person who knows the correct setting method.
Greenday★-san thinks that it can explain better than I.
23: 2007/05/22(火) 16:32:16 ID:UkA0aTym(1)調 AAS
えー(･_･)なんのおはなしい(･_･)
24(1): 7= ◆TECHCS.zfQ 2007/05/22(火) 22:00:17 ID:k065uRwk(1)調 AAS
>>15 和訳に感謝致します。
翻訳機ではうまく伝わらないようです。
>>13 JIM氏
了解致しました。
大変心配でしたが、これで他サイトさんもデリーターさんも安心出来ると思います。
有難う御座いました。
To Mr.Jim
I understood it.
I became very anxious.
I think that both other websites and the deleter can feel relieved in this.
Thank you!
25(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/05/23(水) 13:15:45 ID:eQUb+ORA(1)調 AAS
>>24 どういたしまして
26(2): 2007/05/31(木) 20:28:09 ID:TFuaXg/R(1)調 AAS
Jim-san, ◆TWARamEjuA said that banana238 should be unstable the power supply.
Please check it using the Cramp Meter and so on.
2ch特化型サーバ・ロケーション構築作戦 Part24
2chｽﾚ:operate
832 名前： ◆TWARamEjuA [sage] 投稿日：2007/05/31(木) 19:50:37 ID:PQGnuCKp0 ?2BP(6824)
そしてbanana238も。。。(´･ω･`)
シグナルが飛んできていないからやっぱり電源が不安定なのかしら？
Rock54ご本尊様がリブートしなかった(´･ω･`)
May 30 23:08:03 <0.6> banana238 kernel: pid 2187 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10
リブート後にこんな人がいたもより。。。
>>25
Is it Copy and paste?
27(2): Borracho ◆baila6uPTo 2007/05/31(木) 21:38:23 ID:gSTx66DE(1/2)調 BE AAS
>>26
Jim-san.
banana238 has been rebooted by Mirv-san(0)
However, I think it is good to check it by using the clamp-on ammeter etc.
834 名前： ◆TWARamEjuA sage 投稿日：2007/05/31(木) 21:16:19 ID:PQGnuCKp0 BE:6970188-2BP(6824)
>>833
あっー♪
人為的リブートが入ったもよりですー♪
サーバーダウン（鯖落ち）情報 part148
2chｽﾚ:operate
28(2): ◆TWARamEjuA 2007/05/31(木) 21:39:56 ID:gSTx66DE(2/2)調 BE AAS
>>27
Azzzzzz!!
It made a mistake in TRIP.
29(1): 2007/05/31(木) 21:55:03 ID:+Gi5dtUC(1)調 AAS
>>28
m9(^∀^) pugyaaaaa!!
30(1): 2007/05/31(木) 23:28:38 ID:sou+ij82(1)調 AAS
m9（＾Д＾）
31(1): 2007/06/01(金) 10:12:16 ID:xEC6D2V0(1)調 AAS
Maybe it is time to replace that server with a mighty tbanana!
32: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2007/06/01(金) 10:25:09 ID:??? AAS
>>26-31
Yes it is obvious we are using the oldest servers at pie for bbspink.
I would really like to upgrade them to tbanana, and would like
to migrate the current boards to 4 tbanana servers. This will give
us a few years to grow again. The old servers can hold the kako logs
and with the new tbanana there should be plenty of power and room.
I will need help to do that though, and probably we have to talk about
it a lot before doing that.
33: うふ〜ん [うふ〜ん] うふ〜ん ID:DELETED(1)調 AAS
うふ〜ん
34(1): ◆79EROOYuCc 2007/06/06(水) 05:04:26 ID:E/uUVQkI(1)調 AAS
We have to have another email address which has @bbspink.com domein.
Fllwing is the reason.
79 was doing IP blocking report to ISP when it happens terrible trolls on bbspink, and IP blocking system works.
like this 外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:deleter.bbspink.com
ISP determins who is that "troller", and maybe will warn him/her.
then I ask of deactivatation of that blocking, which is the action for USERs side.
but we, which means you and 79, should be on the blockers side,
because that kind of troll or repeated postings of irrelevant letter-strings are harassment to PINK-channel .
IP blocking reprt to each ISP is basically for deactivation of blocking, which is redicurous for blocker.
also there are lots of recurrences of troll from the same ISP.
we have to have another person who reports them, she/he needs to have email address for reportig.
info at bbspink.com address should be read only by me.
following is the thread which we are talking about that ( only ritten in japanes )
2chｽﾚ:erobbs
so could you make another email address which has @bbspink.com domein, and send the info to my address?
35(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/06/11(月) 15:55:37 ID:/oDK1rXe(1)調 AAS
>>34
I have made this address block AT bbspink.com
36: 2007/06/12(火) 06:29:00 ID:qKGR93Ix(1)調 AAS
thank you
37: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/06/13(水) 15:07:01 ID:JUy0u8jW(1)調 AAS
>>35 dou itashi mashite
38(2): 2007/06/19(火) 21:53:44 ID:y75hjeJa(1)調 AAS
外部ﾘﾝｸ:ate.80.kg
Jim-sanって正面から見ると結構美男ですね！（真ん中の写真）
斜めの角度は腹が出てて微妙ですが。（上の写真）
誰か訳して。
39(1): 2007/06/19(火) 22:20:32 ID:4KttpXat(1)調 AAS
>>38
(This is a poor translation.)
Mr.Jim is a good-looking man when viewing him from the front.
But, when I see him from the diagonal, he seems to have the potbelly.
40: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2007/06/20(水) 11:57:18 ID:F17CUvtF(1)調 AAS
>>38-39
That is because I ate to much pie.
外部ﾘﾝｸ:ate.pie.us
hehehehehehehe
I am not so fat though, just a big chest and loose shirt.
41: 2007/06/21(木) 02:06:30 ID:gDT8awtF(1)調 AAS
Wow!!
"PIE" isn't "Pacific Internet Exchange".
It was "Pie" of the meat pie!?
42: 2007/06/23(土) 09:50:10 ID:oeoHffUB(1)調 AAS
Chicken pot pie, cherry pie, apple pie, Boston cream pie.
43(1): 2007/07/07(土) 18:45:37 ID:YyRBidqL(1)調 AAS
Mr. Jim.. how are you?
44(2): 2007/07/09(月) 12:02:56 ID:KrLgJS2F(1/2)調 AAS
I have no idea if you have heard about present situation about BBSPINK,
so here is FYI.
BBSPINK has no way of ban a user right now since May 2007.(that means,
BBSPINK have nothing to do against troll or attacker who wants to ruin its
target threads or board, except deleting its postings. Since it takes time and
patience, even Greenday-san has given up doing so with some incidents.
As you know, the blocking(or banning) had been done by the 2ch side since
the BBSPINK servers are under their control. Currently, any innocent user can
report the troll or attacker in a specially setup board in 2ch, then if the 2ch blocker
team agreed it is indeed the annoying or disturbance behavior against 2ch BBS,
the troll's ISP domain will be banned. The ban may be on a board(s), or entire
2ch BBS(including BBSPINK's). It has a bad side effect - any users who
has same ISP domain as the troll are also bannd. I heard Hiroyuki's
preference is "no blocking is prefered unless the blocker can pinpoint block the troll
(it means if the troll's IP is static or from Cellphone access(serial number is
required for posting right now), go ahead and do it). Compromise between blocker team
and Hiroyuki is current blocking method - Pinpoint block is eternal. Domain blocking on
a board will be in effect for a month, or until the blocking team receive a mail from
the troll's ISP that they have traced the IP and warned the specified troll about its behavior.
(any innocent user who wants to unblock his domain can report the troll to his ISP)
The blocker team's role is banning the troll. The troll's IP and the logs are posted by
the team for anybody who wants to report the ISP. Deactivation for entire 2ch domain
banning is done by the mail from the ISP only.
Troll or attack on BBSPINK was handled about same way before. Any user report to
the specially setup board on 2ch and the blocker team pinpoint ban the troll or ban
his ISP. The difference was deactivation. Greenday-san used to mail the target ISP
instead of an innocent user who wants to unblock his ISP domain and ask the deactivator
of 2ch blocker team on a basis from the mail Greenday-san received from the ISP.
One day in May, 2ch blocking team found out the BBSPINKs blocking/unblocking
procedure and declared they don't block troll on BBSPINK any more.
Greenday-san and some BBSPINK volunteer discussed for improving(or adjusting)
their procedure to meet 2ch blocker team's wish. They tried to present
the procedure change to 2ch blocker team recently with no success.
Big problem here. Greeday-san does not understand or know exact intent
or thought of the 2ch blocking team. Of course, 2ch blocking team is not so
kind to tell or teach what they really want. I think that the team want Greenday-san
to realize what they want. Because of this, current no banning situation may last longer.
I wrote this not because I want you to do something about this, but let you
know what's happening and if you have any suggestions to Greenday-san or something.
45(2): Greenday ★ 2007/07/09(月) 12:30:23 ID:??? AAS
>>44
ok, that's enough,
you say that I do not understand or know exact intent
or thought of the 2ch blocking team, then I really want to know,
it seems like YOU UNDERSTAND.
What is that?
46(3): Greenday ★ 2007/07/09(月) 12:31:23 ID:??? AAS
Could you PLEASE TELL ME if YOU undeterdtand??
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