Let's talk with Jim-san. Part2

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127:  ◆IZUMI162i6  [sage] 2006/07/30(日) 17:21:04 ID:H0sTRxna BE:5669892-DIA(30001)

> So, your meaning is that a deleter does not need to follow the law
> when he/she judges a deletion
No. I think Deleter must not follow the law.
All Japanese have to correspond to the infringement of right if it is possible.
If Deleter can do a legal judgment as the site, Deleter will not be able to escape the obligation.

Example
*****************************************************************
Dear BBSPINK,

This is IZUMI from IZUMI Corp in Japan.

Delete the following messages.
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/xxxxxxxxxx/119-121
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/xxxxxxxxxx/123

Your site damages our honor. delete it immediately.

Best regards,

*****************************************************************

The message might be a justifiable criticism.
However, you are hesitating in whether it is a justifiable criticism or an infringement of right.
Can you judge "Do not delete it" for this request?
And, can you say to other Deleter, "Please have the danger"?

http://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153928667/127

130:  ◆MARY/2Kkkc  [sage] 2006/07/30(日) 18:28:21 ID:Cwh6Szby

>>125
I am not sure about it, but I do not think it is a big problem,
because I could find many web site in Japan says only "not to enter under 18 years old".

>>127
Thank you for your explanation and an example.
I still do not understand this part why is it?
"If Deleter can do a legal judgment as the site, Deleter will not be able to escape the obligation."

>The message might be a justifiable criticism.
>However, you are hesitating in whether it is a justifiable criticism or an infringement of right.
>Can you judge "Do not delete it" for this request?
>And, can you say to other Deleter, "Please have the danger"?

If the deleter is not sure, then he/she can ask a leader.
If the leader is not sure, then he/she can ask Jim.
If Jim does not delete it, then Jim gets a plaint.
The volunteer has no legal risk, here.

>>128
Very good point, Kotaro-san.
To avoid both the legal risk and illegal risk,
I suggest one volunteer obligation.

* An official volunteer must keep secret on the public about his/her contact address.
Otherwise, Jim can not prevent from someone sending a volunteer a plaint.

http://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153928667/130

151: 名無し編集部員 [sage] 2006/07/31(月) 14:38:31 ID:Sb043K9s

Jim hello. I depend on machine translation.

A Japanese law is revised.

I think that there is a problem in "http://test.up.bbspink.com/upload.php".

When an illegal image was uploaded, bbspink is brought into question directly by 1, uploader of bbspink. It is different from a note of url of a bulletin board

Because 2, a bbspink bulletin board do not suffer from a site to offer an obscene image falling under a Japanese law to, I think that it is the method that is not good that treat an image in a bbspink domain.

3, anyone can make a page letting you think that you prepared of bbspink. Confusion happens thereby.
http://test.up.bbspink.com/filestore/pinkbe.html
This is a made example.

There is little demand for "http://test.up.bbspink.com/upload.php".
I wish that I want use to stop.
Even if there is not uploader, there can be a bbspink bulletin board.
I am concerned about problem outbreak by uploader in bbspink.

http://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153928667/151

158: 名無し編集部員 [sage] 2006/07/31(月) 15:25:38 ID:/1gCMBK/

Dear Mr Jim.
I'm one of the user of bbs pink.
My U.S.E is poor, But I  try to be bridge.

That's point is important for everyone, Mr jim.
The Volunteer would like to know the most basic decision of the structure.

"Who will take the legal accountability?"

Court already adjudicated, "bulletin board manager owes legal accountability".
Concretely, - Defamation, violation of Goodwill. - about Compensation for damages.

The Volunteer is not manager, Ofcourse.
The Volunteer is not some part of the management.
That's why, The Volunteer will not able to take the responsibility, specially about legal accountability.

The volunteer only deletes the case with the breach of rules like the machine.
The manager judges the deletion request that reason is illegal.

It is necessary to post it officially.
General's word will move a lot of volunteers. like a military forces.

and, The Volunteer worries about leader knows to another volunteer's privacy.
basicly, -Leak of official secrets-

Could you think about it please.

All the best

http://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153928667/158

213:  ◆IZUMI162i6  [sage] 2006/08/02(水) 05:21:35 ID:tlaUhxB1 BE:1260522-DIA(30001)

>>211
(In Japanese)
●削除人とは
・削除人とは限定された条件でのみ任意に削除してもよい権利を与えられた利用者です。
・削除人とは掲示板利用者の交流を守るために存在します。削除によって利用者の交流を妨げないよう配慮してください。

●制限
・削除人はガイドライン及びローカルルールで指定された対象しか削除してはなりません。
　ただし、管理者の裁定及び判断は全ての制限よりも優先されます。
・削除人はキャップ漏れ以外の理由で自身の発言を削除してはなりません。
・削除人は削除すべきか迷った投稿を削除してはなりません。
・削除人はガイドライン及びローカルルール上の誹謗中傷の項等権利侵害への配慮により
　削除対象と指定されたを根拠に削除を行えますが、　これBBSPINKの自主規制的なものであり
　法律に基づいたものではありません。
　法律を根拠にした権利侵害の削除依頼について削除人は判断してはなりません。
　それはJim氏にのみ判断する権利があります。
・削除人がガイドラインで指定されていない対象を削除した場合、
　処理理由についてリーダー及びJim氏に対して説明する義務を負います。
　処理理由の説明については削除議論板等にて公開される可能性があります。
・削除人は削除権に伴う自身のアカウントを管理する義務を負います。
・削除人は削除スクリプトに関連した情報や運営に関する情報について守秘義務を負います。
・削除人は削除行為について物品及び金銭の授受を行ってはなりません。

●削除権
・削除権とは限定された範囲で任意に削除を行う権利であり行使しない自由があります。
・削除権の行使は削除依頼の有無に依存しません。依頼は対象を知るきっかけであって一切の権利を制限しません。
・削除人は削除権の行使について管理人に対しKOKOROEに基づいた責任を負います。
・削除人は任意のタイミングで削除権を返却することが出来ます。
・削除人は「制限」を逸脱した場合、削除権を強制的に返却してもらうことがあります。

●必要事項
・削除人は連絡の取れるメールアドレスを保持する必要があります。
・削除人は定期的(期間どうするよ？)に指定された周知(ML?)の内容を確認する必要があります。
・削除人が「必要事項」を満たせなくなる場合は事前に報告する必要があります。
　また、その間削除を行ってはなりません。

●お願い
・削除人は削除依頼に対して処理の報告をしてくれるのが好ましいです。
・削除人は自身の個人情報について外部に出さぬよう注意するのが好ましいです。
・削除人は自身の削除に関する行為について問題や疑問が発生した際、報告をするのが好ましいです。

●合意について
・KOKOROEの内容は適宜変更されることがあります。その際１週間(？)の周知期間を設けますので
　条件等について意見がある、もしくは合意できなくなる場合はご連絡ください。

とかやっつけで書いて見たが。英語は途中で面倒になったので誰かボスケテ。
また、必要な項目とか修正案とかあったら言ってくれ。

http://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153928667/213

226:  ◆MARY/2Kkkc  [sage] 2006/08/02(水) 12:56:14 ID:yFmhmsds

(Please change "he" to "she" when it is necessary.)

"KOKOROE", RULES OF DELETER

●1. WHAT IS A DELETER?

1. A deleter is a BBSPINK user who is given the right to delete only under the limited condition.
2. A deleter is being for protecting the user's smooth communication.
Therefore, a deleter pays attention about not disturbing the user's communication on his work of deletion.

●2. A LIMIT OF WORK OF A DELETER

1. A deleter deletes only an object which is appointed on a deletion policy and a local rule;
however, Jim's judgement is more than all rules.
2. A deleter does not delete his posting by himself except posting his cap information.
3. A deleter does not delete a posting when he is not sure a posting should be deleted or not.
4. A deleter deletes a posting of a rights abuse along a deletion policy and a local rule,
but must not to do a judgement along a law.
A deleter does not have a right to do a judgement it by a law, but only Jim has a right to judge it by a law.
(A purpose is to protect a deleter from a law risk.)
5. If a deleter has deleted a posting which is not appointed on a deletion policy, he has to explain to Jim and a leader why he has done it.
It may be opened on a thread of discussion of a deletion.
6. The deleter must not leak out own account information of deletion under one's control.
7. A deleter has to keep a secret about information of a script of deletion and information of administration.
8. A deleter must not get a thing or money for his work on deletion.

http://mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1153928667/226

227:  ◆MARY/2Kkkc  [sage] 2006/08/02(水) 12:56:53 ID:yFmhmsds

●3. A DELETER'S RIGHT OF DELETION

1. A deleter deletes a posting along a deletion policy, and also he has a right freely to leave a posting without deleting.
2. A request of deletion helps a deleter to find a posting, but also he has a right to delete without a request.
3. A deleter takes responsibility to Jim along the rules of deleter when he uses his right to delete.
4. A deleter is allowed to quit a work whenever he wants to.
5. A deleter may be forced to quit when he works beyond a limit of the rules.

●4. NECESSARY THINGS

1. A deleter needs to reserve an e-mail address for contact.
2. A deleter needs to check for new notes (Mailing List?) for deleters within a required period.(How long?)
3. A deleter has to report in advance when he cannot be on conditions of "Necessary Things".

●5. THINGS TO PLEASE DO IF POSSIBLE

1. A deleter please reports after deleting for a request, if it is possible.
2. A deleter please pays attention not to open on the public about his personal information, if it is possible.
3. A deleter please reports when he has a problem or a question on his work, if it is possible.

●6. ABOUT AN AGREEMENT

1. The rules of deleter may be changed sometimes.
A deleter contacts Jim or a leader within a week(?) if he does not agree with the new rules.

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