[過去ﾛｸﾞ] Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 213 (1002ﾚｽ)
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249(2): (ﾜｯﾁｮｲWW 86de-8ldJ) 2019/09/24(火)11:51 ID:mWkzQVGx0(1/2) AAS
>>246
I'm not trying to downplay their effort and of course practice and immersion are the most important but I think some people are just naturally good at languages.
There are people who are good at context reading, pronouncing clearly, giving a speech, writing a novel and then there ard some who are not.
Even natives have varying levels of abilities at their language like that so it's only natural that the same applies to language learners.
250: 名無しさん＠日本語勉強中 (CA 0H69-Dkz/) 2019/09/24(火)12:36 ID:sGonzLr8H(7/15) AAS
>>249
Yeah, I have no doubt that some people are just naturally better at learning at a certain rate than others.
And of course, if you're a natural mimic, then pronunciation and such are going to come easier to you.
After all, language is mostly mimicry and natural mimics have a huge advantage when it comes to that.
I'm still interested in the overall process and theory behind language learning, though.
Take Matt, for example. He's not perfect at Japanese,
but he's only been speaking the language for a fraction of the time that Peter Barakan has.
I wonder, if Matt keeps up with his immersion-based approach to language learning,
if he will ever reach perfection,
or if he will just plateau at "almost, but not quite perfect" like so many other learners do.
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251(1): 名無しさん＠日本語勉強中 (CA 0H69-Dkz/) 2019/09/24(火)12:38 ID:sGonzLr8H(8/15) AAS
>>249
Another thing I'm interested in, is how long did it take people like Peter Barakan to become perfect?
Surely they weren't just speaking flawlessly from day one.
But there's so little documentation on the subject.
It's like, should you take it as, "if you've been studying for x years and you're still not perfect by then, you'll never be perfect"?
If it took him 2 years to reach perfection then I'd surely believe he's a genius.
Nobody who's not FUCKING EXCEPTIONAL learns perfect Japanese in 2 years.
But if it took him 20 years, then I have to wonder if it's something environmental rather than genetic still.
Not that I think it matters THAT much, whether you have a subtle accent or not.
I'm sure that everyone would agree that Dave Spector speaks excellent Japanese even if he has a foreign accent and such.
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