Let's talk with Jim-san. Part32

[過去ﾛｸﾞ] Let's talk with Jim-san. Part32 (1001ﾚｽ)
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819(1): 2015/01/27(火) 18:54:51.15 ID:njhfLZtq(1/2)調 AAS
>>815
Hi, Afikasu!
You should ready for go to hellowork!

820(1): 2015/01/27(火) 19:00:12.47 ID:RKlbMLhN(2/3)調 AAS
>>819
kussa

821: 2015/01/27(火) 19:02:14.53 ID:njhfLZtq(2/2)調 AAS
>>820
Problem?

822(2): 2015/01/27(火) 19:39:09.33 ID:RKlbMLhN(3/3)調 AAS
362 名無しさん sage 2014/04/12(土) 04:23:56.42 ID:cW2jXkcux
もし2ch.net（jim）が、
"2ch.net"以外にドメイン変更して２ちゃんねるって名前も破棄したら、scのミラー化はやめざるをえない？
531 ひろゆき＠どうやら管理人 ★ 2014/04/12(土) 05:14:25.16 ID:???
>>362
彼の所有権にあたるものを利用する対価よりも、
彼が追ってる債務のほうが大きいので、
大手を振って使います。

>>363
転載禁止じゃないすかね？

>>364
うほ。

823: 2015/01/27(火) 19:41:48.12 ID:7OpL+5b6(1/2)調 AAS
>>822
>彼の所有権にあたるものを利用する
ドメイン変更と名前放棄すれば、自分の所有権ではないと明言してる
アフィカスとホットリンクは手を出せなくなるな

824(1): 2015/01/27(火) 19:53:18.07 ID:6boxxDvN(1)調 AAS
「彼が追ってる債務」ってのが「Jimが所有権を持たない２ちゃん」ってことだろ

825: 2015/01/27(火) 19:55:38.21 ID:7OpL+5b6(2/2)調 AAS
>>824
その解釈は無理がある

826(1): 2015/01/27(火) 20:55:58.80 ID:/V3Foyw3(1)調 AAS
クロールされればコンテンツ所有権の問題となり決着が早まるかね

827(2): 2015/01/28(水) 14:55:57.65 ID:XhLXk76d(1/5)調 AAS
>>816
pink板にpinkJつくってほしい

828: 2015/01/28(水) 14:59:16.58 ID:XhLXk76d(2/5)調 AAS
>>826
訴訟おこさんから解決しない

ただ、ログ速はクロールすんのかね？

829: 2015/01/28(水) 15:34:33.14 ID:XhLXk76d(3/5)調 AAS
BBSpinkがあるなら、BBSblue、BBSivoryなんかあってもいいと思うんだね

830: 2015/01/28(水) 15:39:43.99 ID:XhLXk76d(4/5)調 AAS
>>822
てことは、コードモンキーに所有権？管理権を移したらいいんでないかな

831: 2015/01/28(水) 15:42:02.75 ID:XhLXk76d(5/5)調 AAS
コードモンキーに所有権をうつさないにしても
コードモンキー管理名目のBBSblue(仮)、BBSivory(仮)なんかを新規でつくってみる、と

jimの債務とやらもコードモンキーに関係ないから自力救済でぶんどれないだろ

832: Apparently admin ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/01/28(水) 16:33:32.32 ID:??? AAS
>>827
That is a very good idea. Please wait.
I have a new server to replace Pele.
Just we have not had time to do the update.
It would be good to start talking about the
local rules. Then it will be ready.

833: 2015/01/28(水) 16:43:51.66 ID:A76QWhKj(1)調 AAS
Jim-san
Please change setting
2chｽﾚ:operate

834: 2015/01/28(水) 16:56:16.46 ID:YcBpMiOH(1)調 AAS
>>816
>1.書き込む際の規約を「書き込み内容の著作権含めた全権限を運営に移譲する」今の形ではなく「現運営が使う分だけは許諾」って感じで著作権自体は書き込み主の物として、
>基本的に削除依頼やら告訴のアレコレは各々書き込んだユーザーができるようにする

>2.Jim側で英語日本語の意思疎通問題ない代表者を立てて訴訟はともかく抗議や削除依頼等をFC2やライブドアに対して行って
>「２ｃｈまとめは違法」という意思表示を運営側がちゃんとする

これはやらないの？それとも問題ある感じです？

835: 2015/01/29(木) 04:41:57.39 ID:cwXlBtVD(1)調 AA×

836(1): 2015/01/29(木) 09:31:28.00 ID:jjY3bgBx(1)調 AAS
Jim San

About "ニュース速報Ｆ", bbsmenu hasn't fixed yet.
Could you please change "3執着" to"ニュー速Ｆ" in bbsmenu?

外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:menu.2ch.net

Thank you.

837(1): 2015/01/29(木) 23:23:28.89 ID:YmsQ2J47(1)調 AAS
プロレスww

838: 2015/01/30(金) 03:28:29.94 ID:M5c9/B8x(1)調 AAS
>>837
Jim-sanです

It's so funny.
画像ﾘﾝｸ

839: 2015/01/30(金) 07:51:16.69 ID:ZjDhj5p6(1)調 AAS
>>836　こういうことらしいですよ。

386 名前：名無しさん＠転載は禁止[] 投稿日：2015/01/28(水) 19:22:02.89 ID:6TPLJu2e0 [25/43]
>>378
Ｊｉｍがいうには
ここに俺らが定着して成功するかまだ疑問があるので
俺らが楽しげに板活用出来るようだったら専ブラからみえる板名も
フォルダ名も変えるってさ

840: 2015/01/30(金) 23:07:35.04 ID:YUWmugfF(1)調 AAS
結局2chは転載OKなの？

841(1): Apparently admin ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/01/31(土) 00:17:45.49 ID:??? AAS

>>841
Fuck off, no I am not ok with that.

842: 2015/01/31(土) 01:42:17.09 ID:Ed3JFx46(1/2)調 AAS
Oh self-fucking!　Is that yoga mastery?

843(1): ◆.j5TlHAPPY 2015/01/31(土) 02:21:49.70 ID:QBtneLcu(1)調 AAS
どうも。ニュース速報＋の設定変更を、一応お願いします。
浪人が使えないので。間に合わないかもしれないけど。

外部ﾘﾝｸ[TXT]:daily.2ch.net

BBS_NONAME_NAME=自治スレでLR変更等議論中
↓
BBS_NONAME_NAME=明日、2月1日（日曜日）ローカルルール変更投票実施

844: 2015/01/31(土) 02:34:02.54 ID:Ed3JFx46(2/2)調 AAS
>>843-san and newsplus residents need urgent change of BBS_NONAME_NAME
b/c drunker-san abruptly urged them to vote on the local rule tomorrow, but he cannot change it by himself.
Please lend them a hand.

cf.
drunker-san's decree 2chｽﾚ:editorialplus
discussion thread (current) 2chｽﾚ:newsplus

Thank you.

845: Apparently admin ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/01/31(土) 19:50:10.27 ID:??? AAS

>>827
I should be able to do this on Monday.
Why don't you discuss it with the over LiveJ
guys and come up with some local rules.
That would put you ahead of the game.

846(1): azas ◆IPf3SNpHV4eu 2015/01/31(土) 21:11:36.63 ID:L3d1u9hL(1)調 AAS
Good evening, Jim-san. Please consider this proposal.
2chｽﾚ:operate

847(1): Apparently admin ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/01/31(土) 22:24:13.57 ID:??? AAS

>>846
I think we might already have a board
like that here.
2ch板:girls
Also there is this board.
2ch板:idol
and this one.
2ch板:geinoj
I think it is a good idea, but is what you
are asking for already available?
We could make a board called uraidol
or something. Let's discuss it more.

848: 2015/02/01(日) 01:32:04.33 ID:P5FFKnW7(1)調 AAS
Hi,Jim-san
日本語ですみません全板とはいいませんがせめてスマホは強制県名表示を願います
機内モード切り替えで数分もしないうちにIDを変え荒らし続ける荒らしがいます
県名表示を願う板は週間少年漫画板です

849: azas ◆IPf3SNpHV4eu 2015/02/01(日) 16:51:10.68 ID:I/Zx8Ewq(1)調 AAS
>>847
Thank you for your reply.
Please forgive me my lousy English.

foldar name = uraidol
BBS_TITLE = AKB salon
This new board. How is it?

Our wish is to improve the overcrowding.
> 2ch板:girls 2ch板:idol 2ch板:geinoj
It is not possible to recover the overcrowding in these boards.
This is because the resident is not moved.
I think when you emigrate If you make a new board.

Currently, a large amount posts to protect the threads.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:hissi.org
This is because the board is overcrowding.

850: 2015/02/01(日) 17:45:40.60 ID:eBv2bx6A(1)調 AAS
jimって2chを乗っ取りたいんじゃなくて潰したいだけろ
胡散臭い投票とかやりまくって文字数制限してAA潰して
たらこより悪質で無能な言論統制者だと言う事がよく分かったわ

851: 2015/02/01(日) 17:58:47.53 ID:gRl5AB87(1)調 AAS
AAなんて90年代の遺物は本当になくていいわ
コピペと同レベルのログの無駄

852: 2015/02/01(日) 23:37:44.13 ID:suYJttsY(1)調 AAS
モナー系AAならいいけど、アニメ系巨大AAはいらん

853: 2015/02/02(月) 00:00:55.24 ID:XJgZbc4O(1)調 AAS
ﾊﾞｯｷﾝｶﾞﾑとかzumbaと一緒に出てくるキャラAAがかなりうざい
面白いと思ってやってんのかね
普通に文章で警告出せば済むのに

854: 2015/02/02(月) 09:11:29.42 ID:4itl0pUS(1)調 AAS
運営が、自分の趣味を前面に押し出すほど、
そのサイトは、同じ趣味を共有する人だけのコミュニティになる

855: 2015/02/02(月) 10:51:05.32 ID:VUY9ZW91(1)調 AAS
画像ﾘﾝｸ

856(1): Apparently admin ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/02/02(月) 12:25:45.85 ID:??? AAS
We will start upgrading pele soon. I am sorry for the inconvenience.
We have these three names.
nasu.bbspink.com
hime.bbspink.com
miko.bbspink.com
Anyone have anything to comment on them?

857: 2015/02/02(月) 12:52:21.35 ID:k8691FIC(1)調 AAS
>>856
hime

858(1): 2015/02/02(月) 12:55:48.00 ID:WqUuCKjX(1)調 AAS
巫女みこナースと聞いて…

pinkでhimeだとちょっと意味深だな

859: 2015/02/02(月) 14:23:14.21 ID:Mi5nvbpV(1)調 AAS
>>858
Let's make Pink Channel bigger, then next servers can be hime and miku.

860: 2015/02/02(月) 15:28:36.07 ID:T/SwuQ3y(1)調 AAS
miku?

861(3): azas ◆IPf3SNpHV4eu 2015/02/02(月) 23:46:03.09 ID:ffkOtsOa(1)調 AAS
Good evening Jim-san.
Thank you for your hard work.

We discussed. New board there are many people want.
2chｽﾚ:akb
2chｽﾚ:vote

First of all, please make a uraidol board.
want to discuss in the uraidol board.

862(2): 2015/02/03(火) 20:14:38.65 ID:O39okLRf(1)調 AAS
Hi, Jim-san.
I am ニュー速F(外部ﾘﾝｸ:aoi.bbspink.com user.
We discussed and voted about setting ID, signboard and 1001.txt.
Please change these setting.(^-^)

・Change Signboard -> 画像ﾘﾝｸ

( Discussion : 2chｽﾚ:3shuchaku )
( Vote : 2chｽﾚ:vote )

・Change 1001.txt -> 2chｽﾚ:aasaloon
( Disc : 2chｽﾚ:3shuchaku )
( Vote : 2chｽﾚ:vote )

・Change SETTING.TXT
BBS_SLIP=checked -> BBS_SLIP=verbose
( Disc : 2chｽﾚ:3shuchaku )
( Vote : 2chｽﾚ:vote )

(*About "BBS_SLIP=verbose" (japanese)
　外部ﾘﾝｸ[29]:info.2ch.net
　e.g. なんでも実況J　外部ﾘﾝｸ[TXT]:orpheus.2ch.net
　　　ニュース速報VIP 外部ﾘﾝｸ[TXT]:viper.2ch.net )

863(1): 2015/02/03(火) 22:57:33.42 ID:00GwYQXj(1)調 AAS
>>862
画像ﾘﾝｸ

↓
画像ﾘﾝｸ

864(1): 2015/02/04(水) 13:12:58.11 ID:D1tVp51D(1)調 AAS
coming troll in News-F(3shuchaku) board from other day.
so our council moved to sakhalin.

ニュー速F板自治スレ＠非政治トピックスレ線引き、取り扱い議論スレ [転載禁止]©2ch.net
2chｽﾚ:sakhalin

865: 2015/02/04(水) 23:05:04.23 ID:BhLY+QYo(1)調 AAS
Hi, Jim-san.

“We”“many people” of >>861 is not true.
It is not announced about the discussion.

866: 2015/02/05(木) 02:20:49.81 ID:8VUI5N5i(1/2)調 AAS
Hi, Mr.Jim

URL " 2ch板:erobbs " guides new server as " nasu.2ch.net " ,
bat, correct server name is " nasu.bbspink.com " .

I hope your ... your ... mending , when you have a time .

867(3): 2015/02/05(木) 06:54:51.50 ID:8VUI5N5i(2/2)調 AAS
2chの運用板はRoninないと書けないんだった
のでこちらに

dear Mr.Jim
I'm just only "nanashi", so perhaps I should not say this,
but I hope you hear me out.

Mr.Mango and Mr.FOX has do various settings,
feature abolition & abolition, and leads Reporter CAP.
But they are too administrator-ish.
They explains very few. They doesn't think from user's view.
As a result, users feels inconvenient and uneasiness,
and dispute occurs at various place.

So, I think that 2ch needs a person who can be a "cushion",
who can think from user's view, can speak Japanese well, and has skill.
Support and (beforehand) check thier work,
and make some (beforehand) notice to users, and make document.
Accoding as this, users can use 2ch comfortable, settles tha matter quickly,
and it can realize improve of PV and decrease Mr.Jim( & Mr.CM )'s time and labor.
I hope for your consideration.

Thanks you for reading my awkward english.
/* 日本語で書いたほうが良さそうならすぐにでも日本語で書き直します */

868(1): 2015/02/05(木) 10:51:01.61 ID:ydb8mmhO(1/2)調 AAS
Hi Jim-san,

We didn't have a full conversation about >>861
There are too many opponents and the noes have it.
He, azas ◆IPf3SNpHV4eu, is pushy...

thank you

869: 2015/02/05(木) 11:43:30.26 ID:ydb8mmhO(2/2)調 AAS
Jim-san,

>>861 >>868

I provide background information to you.
2chｽﾚ:operate

He wrote also here.
2chｽﾚ:operate

870: 2015/02/06(金) 07:28:13.45 ID:kw0osGBW(1)調 AAS
Good Morning Mr.Jim

I'm >>867.
But today I take a matter that is little differ from >>867.

Please read bellow.
2chｽﾚ:mango
This is not English, all of this is written in Japanese.
Moreover, it includes " Mouko-ben " that is like a dialect and is mainly used in "/livejupiter/".
I can't translate this to English because of my poor English skill.
But, I hope to you read this ( if possible, by yourself) .

It's contains access restriction issue and anti crime issue.
I think it is very delicate issue that requires careful discussion and judgment of administrators,
but it seems to be that Mr.Mango decides all by himself.

871: 2015/02/09(月) 22:28:16.50 ID:5jowNlWn(1)調 AAS
Hi Jim san
嫌儲の行数規制が厳しくてAAが貼れません
行数規制はそのままに、運営に許可されたAAは規制に引っ掛からないように出来ませんか

I think Kenmo's regulation(number of lines) is very unsparing.
Could you keep the regulation in addition (also) permit a certain AA?

I want to paste 画像ﾘﾝｸ

872: 2015/02/10(火) 06:44:52.63 ID:xsbcvGF6(1)調 AAS
Does Mr.Jim no longer check here?
I look forward to hearing at least your thoughts.

873: 867 2015/02/11(水) 08:58:19.85 ID:dzyVkDAQ(1)調 AAS
Hi Mr.Jim.

Mr.FOX (drunker) changed /moeplus/ board from "萌ニュース＋" to "アイドル＋".
This board's target was Anime, Manga(Comics), Game.
But He added "IDOL" topic (like AKB48, NMB48 ).
And he also changes this board's LR.
He did arbitrary.

He ignore reporter and user.
A lot of Report and a lot of user are
against this change and angry very much.
They wants to turn /moeplus/ back before.

What do you think about it, Mr.Jim ?

874: 2015/02/11(水) 15:03:26.45 ID:DADLmIOE(1)調 AAS
Hi jim san.
I often see news board.
But news board sometimes get same topic.

It is often said that Some of the companies sometimes make many same topic to against topic what is not good for own company.

Can you make system to marge these topic?
or make people who make same topic ban.

875: 2015/02/11(水) 18:00:49.38 ID:fYk11K/I(1)調 AAS
Hi Mr.jim .
Please prohibit the Ress from a smartphone with a PinkJ.
Many flamers ress in it from a smartphone.

ジムへ
PinkJのスマホを禁止してください
荒らしはスマートフォンからレスしてる人が多いです。

英語に自信ないけどこんな感じかな

876: [age] 2015/02/12(木) 00:04:55.16 ID:ufmRxbZK(1)調 AAS
反応ないのは悲しいね

877(1): 2015/02/13(金) 10:22:55.66 ID:e0vZO2ja(1)調 AAS
Hello Mr.Jim.

Domain "RACEQUEEN.PH" probably seems to be expired.
.PH whois server "dot.ph" returns "Domain Name: RACEQUEEN.PH Expires on : February 9, 2015".
So I cannot access racequeen.ph with http/smtp. DNS query returns A record "203.119.6.168".

878: 2015/02/13(金) 16:54:01.13 ID:ObzgMBIE(1)調 AAS
Why regulation removed ?

879: 2015/02/13(金) 19:37:59.68 ID:KdqRyRlv(1)調 AAS
ジムさんどこ行ってしまったの？

880: 2015/02/13(金) 20:23:59.93 ID:XzxxXlao(1)調 AAS
みんなのこころの中にいるよ

881(1): Grape Ape ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/02/13(金) 21:50:59.32 ID:??? AAS
>>877
Thank you, I was wondering why my
email was less..:)
I renewed it. I really appreciate that.

882: 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/02/13(金) 23:21:44.84 ID:ThkMOS7l(1)調 AAS
Report to Mr. Jim

the affiliate blog named "EVA-soku" reproduced a shred of BBS-pink's "New-soku frontier 外部ﾘﾝｸ:aoi.bbspink.com
Anonymous found that the administrator manage "Yaraon". this affiliate blog has been prohibited from reproducing by the pre-administrator of 2ch Hiroyuki Nishimura.
Moreover, his profile including his name is found.
the shreds of this topic are
2chｽﾚ:poverty
2chｽﾚ:3shuchaku

883(1): 2015/02/14(土) 00:03:04.66 ID:ag2YOb0+(1)調 AAS
>>881
you are welcome.
but i hope you to read >>867 and tell what you think about it.

885(1): 2015/02/15(日) 05:56:26.64 ID:WUtaWYcO(1)調 AAS
>>883
You idiot
interesting things might happen if you didnt say that.
All you got is the word thank

886: 2015/02/15(日) 22:45:32.18 ID:bN4XZ1Pg(1)調 AAS
狼のローカルルールに↓追加でお願いします
ID等導入に関する議論・投票および申請を禁止します。

887: 2015/02/15(日) 23:57:18.50 ID:ZOGL743N(1)調 AAS
>>885
I'll wait Mr.Jim so patiently.

888: 2015/02/16(月) 11:02:03.27 ID:rsLbd/tq(1/3)調 AAS
何がしたいねんヨガデブ

889: 2015/02/16(月) 12:10:37.60 ID:xDa5e/L5(1)調 AAS
白豚この野郎！
ファッキンジャップくらいわかるよ！馬鹿野郎！
ダンカンこの野郎！

890: 2015/02/16(月) 12:42:41.70 ID:yCdXglKE(1/3)調 AAS
Dear James Arthur Watkins.
If I may, I would like to ask you some questions below.

- Why did you contract with janesoft/Jane,Inc ?
- Is it possible to get rights of using new API without throughing janesoft/Jane,Inc ?
- When it will be stopped that accessing DAT directly?
- Do you want to force dedicated browser to showing ads?
- Do you want to restrict Normal HTTP access through read.cgi?
- What do you think about how to prevent scraping?

891(4): Grape Ape ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/02/16(月) 12:53:52.58 ID:??? AAS
Good morning, wow you know my name.
How are you today?
Tell me more about yourself? What concern
is it of you? We are not going to restrict
access to 2ch users. That is the important
thing.

892(1): 2015/02/16(月) 12:57:51.06 ID:V8TOcPrc(1)調 AAS
>>891
Come on!

Let's talk about 2ch browser with Jim-san&Codemonkey-san in Kenmo [転載禁止](c)2ch.net [617490624]
2chｽﾚ:poverty

893(1): 2015/02/16(月) 13:00:17.81 ID:4YJBnW3U(1)調 AAS
>>891
Come on.

Let's talk with Jim-san in NanJ. [転載禁止](c)2ch.net
2chｽﾚ:livejupiter

894: 2015/02/16(月) 13:05:55.78 ID:yCdXglKE(2/3)調 AAS
>>891
Thanks your response.
I'm relieved to hear "We are not going to restrict access to 2ch users".
If you have time , please come >>892 or >>893's thread.

I worry about this 2chｽﾚ:software .
Many users are embarrassed.

895: 2015/02/16(月) 13:16:13.40 ID:z4gV02Il(1)調 AAS
>>891
2chｽﾚ:operate
2chｽﾚ:operate

Hi, Jim-san. Please do not forget Yugioh board... (;_;)

896: 2015/02/16(月) 13:16:49.45 ID:YeBnhk4p(1)調 AAS
Dear Jim

we dont rely on Mr. Yamasita.
becouse he dont explain google adsense with JaneStyle.
he pretend the orignal jane developper but he is not the orignal developer of Jane.
the orignal Jane is Open Jane, and it is free.

私たちは山下さんに不信感を持っています
なぜなら彼は私達に黙って専ブラにグーグルアドセンスを入れて勝手に個人情報をグーグルに送っていたからです
これについての説明を彼から聞いたことはありません
そして彼はJaneブラウザを開発した人ではありません
JaneブラウザはOpen Janeがオリジナルであり、これは無料で開発されました

897: 2015/02/16(月) 13:18:55.43 ID:Yf59ipaM(1)調 AAS
jimさん

we dont rely on Mr. Yamasita.
becouse he dont explain google adsense with JaneStyle.
he pretend the orignal jane developer but he is not the orignal developer of Jane.
the orignal Jane is Open Jane, and it is free.

I think it is not good idea that
Mr. Yamasita has the personally identifiable information of jane programmers

898: 2015/02/16(月) 14:27:26.84 ID:yCdXglKE(3/3)調 AAS
Dear James Arthur Watkins,

I fervently hope to talk with you.
It doesn't matter that public or not, on 2ch bbs or on Skype chat, Japanese or English.
If you want, I will tell you my name, mail-address, or what you want before talking.
I have wait and I will wait.

899: 2015/02/16(月) 15:10:47.62 ID:tv9o8BFT(1/4)調 AAS
Yamashita rejects many browsers which compete with his browser(JaneStyle).
He isn't appropriate for judge.

900: 2015/02/16(月) 15:19:10.73 ID:0O1Ob3hQ(1)調 AAS
Hello, dear Mr. Jim
Thank you for your hard work.

Mr. Jim, Mr. Codemonkey and related persons hampered net agents who restricted user posting opinions, especially in the newsplus-board. Thank you very much for it too.

However please desist from wiping out successive browsers.
Though I reiterate it, the 2ch is the last standing as for our media.
Furthermore, current your enemies are colluding with "Liberal Democratic Party (Japan)" or "National Police Agency" and other bureaucracy. So to speak, you should think it is Japanese government itself.
They can upset your rights by twisting the laws if they truly intend to do so.
Or they might shut out your hosts from IP addresses, probably pretending something like errors.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Correction: NPA to urge ISP industry to help site administrators block users of anonymity software"
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:web.archive.org
(Mainichi Shinbun's article in English)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Their purpose is the media controlling on net.
If you restricted users by alteration of system and the amount of users dwindle, you will play into their hands.
In fact, the amount of users plummeted in the bbspink when an alteration was added though I think Mr. Codemonkey knows it well.
Once again, you should think Japan is NO LONGER law-ruled state.
I am ruing it still yet that my uncareful activity killed the related persons, at least, it is sure as for Mr. Isamu Kaneko of the Winny's Leak Case.
Anyway Japanese security police can do clandestinely everything, arson, robbers, rape, murder and so on, out of law.

901: 2015/02/16(月) 17:27:08.71 ID:tP+wVPjp(1/3)調 AAS
Jimは何も解ってなかったんだな
利益優先で無茶苦茶やりはじめたら誰も付いてこんぞ

902(1): 2015/02/16(月) 17:51:37.47 ID:tv9o8BFT(2/4)調 AAS
And Yamashita kills off all open source browsers. It's crazy.

903: 2015/02/16(月) 18:03:41.10 ID:qmY6PR+R(1)調 AAS
Jimさんに、伝えたい事があってスレにきました。

山下さんについて、携帯のみのユーザーはよくわからないのですが
［ぬこブラウザ］や［iMona］等の
いわゆる携帯電話などから2chにアクセスが困難な人達が
大好きな2chやBBSPINKを利用するのに必要な方々が沢山居ます

ですが、山下さんの権限では許諾出来ないとなっているようです。

スマホですらない携帯ユーザーから、大好きな2chやBBSPINKを
奪わないように出来ないでしょうか？
PCとかとは違い、開発者が辞めてしまったり
携帯という物からのアクセスであったりを考えると
今だにCookieすら満足に保持出来ない方々も多く
皆が2chやBBSPINKを続けたいのに、出来ないと泣いています。
携帯ユーザーをどうか、救ってくれませんか？

904(1): Grape Ape ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/02/16(月) 18:38:52.26 ID:??? AAS
Quit being Chicken little. The sky is not
falling. If you have a problem with Yamashita-san
talk to him. He is in the software board.
2ch板:software
Things are going to be better, not worse.

905(6): Grape Ape ★ 転載ダメ©bbspink.com [sageteyon] 2015/02/16(月) 18:40:42.83 ID:??? AAS
>>902
I have known Yamashita-san for many
years. That is not true. Only pirates
will be effected by anything. Normal
users and normal browsers will not be.

906: 2015/02/16(月) 18:48:17.50 ID:RM4RC7+4(1)調 AAS
To: jim san

navi2ch reject from yamashita.
Yamashita doesn't indicate a reason.
bavi2ch wrote by lisp program.

Yamashita is going to rule 2ch.

907: 2015/02/16(月) 18:50:32.65 ID:MtX6arZm(1)調 AAS
the dedicated browser I made was rejected by yamashita-san.
if I negotiate with jim-san, will my appli revive?

908: 2015/02/16(月) 18:51:28.92 ID:e6jiVust(1)調 AAS
Hello Jim-san.
According to "外部ﾘﾝｸ:developer.2ch.net "All 2ch browsers" are banned to get 2ch posts from read.cgi.
But, developer.2ch.net doesn't mention "2ch.net-related services".
Is it allowed that "2ch.net-related services" gets 2ch posts from read.cgi?

909: 2015/02/16(月) 18:51:39.88 ID:h3imZVZ5(1)調 AAS
Many developers have declared the development stop as fact.
Or rather, I don't know 2ch browser to continued development.
Perhaps half of the people this state will not have from here.

910: 2015/02/16(月) 18:53:13.18 ID:srWi9HbX(1/2)調 AAS
Jim-san,

Just now I've heard that 2ch eco system will drastically change in coming March,
and development of browser for the new system is strictlly controlled under your
permission.
I am just a reader, and not a developer, so I do NOT intend to develop new browser
of my own, but I am afraid that many browsers cannot remain after this change -
the browser I usually use may disappear.

So I would like to confirm whether you mind/ban the following activities done by
users for their own convenience to read 2ch:

1. To read 2ch by general web browsers such as Chrome, Firefox, and etc.
2. To build "add-on" for the above browsers to modify the rendering of 2ch threads.
3. To share such add-on for other uses.

As long as I know, there are no regulation to give web administrators any authorities
to ban the users' right to do the above 2 nor 3 in Japan. If you limited access to 2ch
such that only permitted browsers could do, the above 1 becomes unable and also the
2 and 3, but I guess you do not hope such closed system.

Anyway, I would like to know your policy for the above, concerning the new 2ch.
Could you please let me (and many other users) know your opinion about this?

911: 2015/02/16(月) 18:55:14.37 ID:tP+wVPjp(2/3)調 AAS
山下と話し合えと言うならあいつに出て来い言え

912: 2015/02/16(月) 18:59:45.46 ID:jBtK8Fa8(1)調 AAS
ンゴwwwとか言ってる人たちの反応が薄い気がするのは、まだ時期尚早なだけなのかな
彼らの矛先はいったいどこに向かうんだろう

913: 2015/02/16(月) 19:00:38.62 ID:LvZrfdeq(1/2)調 AAS
山下君の見解

2chｽﾚ:software
> 430　名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。　[sage]　2015/02/16(月) 15:00:57.62 ID:3K6ufJEA0 [7/9]
> >>429
> 2chでJimに直接言えばいい
> 少しは自分の頭で考えろ

914: 2015/02/16(月) 19:04:09.71 ID:IiBuv+nV(1)調 AAS
spyle以外の専ブラ潰す気か？よりによってスパイウェア仕込んでる犯罪者のところに客集約するとか正気かよ
ふざけてんのかjim

915: 2015/02/16(月) 19:04:14.05 ID:/hzYYA+D(1/2)調 AAS
>>905
i love you sir!

In this situation "ギコナビ"(not pirates) has already said development cancellation

he said that he does not receive the reward either,
but is that it was refused by Yamashita-san because registration is a steering wheel name

I worry when here may decrease in population
and Population flows out into the others,like SC(I hate SC)

916: 2015/02/16(月) 19:11:03.88 ID:kreofzR+(1)調 AAS
>>905
Can I get a API licence without Yamashita-san?

917: 2015/02/16(月) 19:11:16.47 ID:/hzYYA+D(2/2)調 AAS
Now,
doesn't seem to be an admitted "open source browsers"

918: 2015/02/16(月) 19:12:33.32 ID:WV2Arh9G(1)調 AAS
V2C　will be dead

919: 2015/02/16(月) 19:14:05.16 ID:DvwAH8nq(1)調 AAS
Jim san

How do you think about a spyware on Jane style?
Don't you know we call it "Jane Spyle"?
Many 2ch user hate Yamashita.

920: 2015/02/16(月) 19:19:52.57 ID:D0Thads3(1)調 AAS
fuck jim
fuckfuckfuckfuck

jane style fuck
fuck

921: 2015/02/16(月) 19:36:13.02 ID:tv9o8BFT(3/4)調 AAS
>>905
Open source based browsers are rejected by Yamashita actually.
Pirates don't need dat files, they can also use read.cgi.
But dedicated browsers can't escape.

922: 2015/02/16(月) 19:42:09.93 ID:HE6iAwwi(1)調 AAS
Yamashita will hide fuckin spyware in the new 2ch browser,
and SC will continue to steal regardless of the new API.
We users will not be able to avoid those hopeless tragedy and being ruled by LIAR JIM with UGLY NISHIMURA.

923: 2015/02/16(月) 19:47:14.94 ID:KW9RD5cS(1)調 AAS
>>904
誘導されたので

Let's talk with Yamashita-san. [転載禁止](c)2ch.net
2chｽﾚ:software

924: 2015/02/16(月) 19:48:21.60 ID:srWi9HbX(2/2)調 AAS
Jim-san is saying that there are no problem because he already met
and talked with developpers of major browsers and they understood
everything.
But now, many developpers have declared discontinue development
of their browsers, and some people mention the reason as that they
do not want to obey conditions shown by Yamashita-san, e.g. they
should tell their personel information to him, he can command them
urgent fix (in 14 days) of their browsers, and etc.

So I wonder whether there is difference between Jim-san's explanation
to them and Yamashita-san's one. I think Jim-san should communicate
directly with developpers to calm this confusion, because Yamashita-san
do not announce any more detailed explanation.

Please let me know if anyone know browser permitted by Yamashita-san
other than his Jane Style.

925: 2015/02/16(月) 19:49:26.37 ID:MrrqBBo1(1)調 AAS
V2C殺すなー
do not kill V2C

926: /名無しさん[1-30] ◆.htmlXG20g 2015/02/16(月) 20:00:21.32 ID:bskw939F(1)調 AAS
PINKちゃんねる Vol.1 ISBN4-87734-732-1
110ページ
「PINKちゃんねる管理人として」より抜粋

> ただ単にコンピュータ・コードを書いただけで逮捕された（以下略

ユーザーのためのユーザーによる2ちゃんねるはどこへ行ったのでしょうか？

927: 2015/02/16(月) 20:01:24.01 ID:Q5Lta+Pa(1/2)調 AAS
Many OSX user uses V2C.
Because not so much options for them.

I think this movement let OSX users get lost ...
Some will use browser or some will use AUTHORIZED browser.
But most must leave 2ch.net.
Because it's very messy to access via web browser or to change 2ch browser.

I predict that after closing .dat access route , Mac boards are going to begin depopulation.

BTW, maybe you don't care about us than we love you... :-(

928: 2015/02/16(月) 20:13:02.02 ID:yZ+g+FwM(1/2)調 AAS
>>905
Hi, Jim-san,

The developers of normal browsers are imposed on many restrictions by Yamashita.

Firstly, they are forced to send their personal information, such as their real name, address, telephone number and so on, to Yamashita.
Some authors (e.g., Jane View, Jane Xeno, 2Live, Twintail) don't want to provide their personal information, so they may stop developing.
In fact, some of them already have decleared they don't continue to develop any more.
(e.g., 外部ﾘﾝｸ:qerozon.jp )

Secondly, because the API key is required to be stored secretly, most of the open-source dedicated browsers will be affected.
There are lots of open-source browsers:
V2C, ギコナビ(Giko-navi), navi2ch, chaika, BathyScaphe, Thousand, JD, rep2, Freeze Owata+1, etc.
They were not able to get the permission of access to the new API duo to the lack of ability to store the key confidentially.

Jim-san, please see this table.
2chｽﾚ:software

Most dedicated browsers may lose access to 2ch.net after 3/3/2015.
Please think twice to introduce the new API!

929: 2015/02/16(月) 20:13:10.87 ID:dWbNb606(1)調 AAS
>>905
Hi Jiｍ
Please read >862-864 about News-Frontier board.

ニュー速Fについての決定事項です
設定の反映お願いします

930(4): 2015/02/16(月) 20:37:55.91 ID:LvZrfdeq(2/2)調 AAS
【2ch専用ブラウザ今回のAPIへの対応一覧】
× Jane (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
◎ Jane Style (山下がAPI使用許諾の権限)
× Jane View (Style山下と仲が悪く個人情報を渡したくない)
△ Jane Xeno (Style山下と仲が悪く個人情報を渡したくない)
△ Jane Clone (Style山下と仲が悪く個人情報を渡したくない)
× V2C (作者が行方不明＆逆コンパイル可でオープンソースに準じるため)
△ Twintail　(作者ではないが開発を協力している水玉氏が「しおどきかな」と言っている)
× ギコナビ (個人情報渡したくない。本家がBSDライセンスの要件を満たしていない)
× ゾヌ (開発停止)
× かちゅ〜しゃ (開発停止)
× Wakamurasaki (使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× Andy (使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× navi2ch (オープンソース→使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× chaika (オープンソース→使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× s2ch.net[讃岐メニュー] (ウェブアプリケーション→使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× iMona (ウェブアプリケーション→使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× n2ch.net[ぬこ] (ウェブアプリケーション→使用許諾を出すことはできませんと通告)
× read.js (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
× BathyScaphe (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
× Thousand (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
× JD (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
× rep2 (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
× Freeze Owata+1 (オープンソースは許諾が出ない)
× 2chMate (ひろゆきに対応していると許諾が出ない)

931: 2015/02/16(月) 20:43:03.19 ID:Q5Lta+Pa(2/2)調 AAS
>>930
oh... terrible than I thought...

932: 2015/02/16(月) 20:54:01.71 ID:rsLbd/tq(2/3)調 AAS
糞デブ
お前と山下の金儲けの為にどれほどの難民をだすつもりだ？

933: 2015/02/16(月) 20:57:35.43 ID:Ie3EY3qT(1)調 AAS
嫌ならやめりゃあいい

934: 2015/02/16(月) 21:10:56.72 ID:yZ+g+FwM(2/2)調 AAS
>>930
English version.

<The Current Status of Main Dedicated Browsers>
[Legend]
Y: Got the permission of access to the new API.
N: Cannot get the permission of access to the new API or announced the end of development.
?: Unknown

Jane: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
Jane Style: Y (Yamashita's product)
Jane View: N (The developer won't provide his information)
Jane Xeno: ? (The developer won't provide his information)
Jane Clone: ? (The developer won't provide his information)
V2C: N (The development has stopped for years.Also, V2C is not an native application, but a Java app.)
Twintail: ? (One of the comitter said it's time to quit)
Giko-navi: N (The developer won't provide his information. Also, Giko-navi violates BSD license)
Zonu: N (The development has stopped for years)
Kachu-sya: N (The development has stopped for years)
Wakamurasaki: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
Andy: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
navi2ch: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
chaika: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
s2ch.net: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
iMona: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
n2ch.net: N (Yamashita rejected this app)
read.js: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
BathyScaphe: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
Thousand: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
JD: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
rep2: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
Freeze Owata+1: N (An open source browser cannot get the permission)
2chMate: N (This app supports Hiroyuki's 2ch)

935: 2015/02/16(月) 21:16:25.72 ID:tv9o8BFT(4/4)調 AAS
More than 20 browsers will be banished by Yamashita. (>>930)
He also makes browser(and it's controversial one),
so I can well believe he contrive to exile all other browsers.

936: [sagesage] 2015/02/16(月) 21:18:47.17 ID:hcg9E0bj(1)調 AAS
Hey, Jim!
I made Test Proxy Service for old 2ch's browser which new api can't use or not permit new api.
This program use Firefox/Chrome and Those browser display 2ch/pink and convert from browser's displaying HTML to dat file.
If you write 2ch/pink, those browser display 2ch/pink and fill the form and post automatically.

Dounload Link:
外部ﾘﾝｸ:www1.axfc.net

Let's try it and report usability!

So, this post has been using this program! :)

937: 2015/02/16(月) 21:19:36.69 ID:CnJhr8J0(1)調 AAS
【悲報】ギコナビ作者が開発終了を宣言「個人情報を使ってまで開発を続けるつもりはありません」
2chｽﾚ:poverty

938: 2015/02/16(月) 22:13:20.25 ID:tP+wVPjp(3/3)調 AAS
おいJim
お前が出てきて話をするか
山下を呼び出すか

どっちでもいいから行動しろ

939: 2015/02/16(月) 22:37:44.53 ID:QsMFWE+7(1)調 AAS
Hi Jim-san

Please allow to continue the development of BathyScaphe!
Because Mac user can not to use JaneStyle or silmiar it.

940(1): 2015/02/16(月) 22:37:57.79 ID:NCbBtZ8A(1)調 AAS
flashとjava禁止は頭おかしいわ

941: 2015/02/16(月) 22:42:45.99 ID:rsLbd/tq(3/3)調 AAS
豚野郎
お前は今回の件についてちゃんと把握してんのか？
専ブラ殆ど死ぬことになるぞ
ＰＣはまだしも携帯やスマホからのアクセス減らしたいのか？

942: 2015/02/16(月) 22:43:13.45 ID:gIFTUwAg(1)調 AAS
jim-san
you are crazy

943(1): 2015/02/16(月) 23:45:43.36 ID:YN2FXVvC(1/2)調 AAS
>>940
Flashは頻繁に脆弱性が見つかるから妥当

944(1): 2015/02/16(月) 23:47:00.91 ID:a32v4wu1(1/2)調 AAS
>>943
んなこといったらJavaも同じだ
さらに言うとWindowsだって同じだ

945(1): 2015/02/16(月) 23:47:59.12 ID:YN2FXVvC(2/2)調 AAS
>>944
うん、まともな反論しようね

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