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146(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/07/31(月) 13:41:18 ID:laeG3rQ4(3/7)調 AAS
>>91 >>92
I am thinking leader should have the position for 1 year and next election
next year.
My thought on no resignation is this.
Volunteers can resign anytime they want to, they are under no obligation.
Leader is elected position, and is for 1 year.
Since it is anonymous election, nobody would really know the offline person
that is elected.
So it would be on your honor to help make the new election for next new leader
if you can not stay for 1 year.
147(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/07/31(月) 13:44:50 ID:laeG3rQ4(4/7)調 AAS
>>96
Volunteers may come and go as they please. There is no obligation.
Lets use the system comfortably, and have fun.
148: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/07/31(月) 13:55:49 ID:laeG3rQ4(5/7)調 AAS
>>109
>>111
Tubo is great!
This is tubo
外部ﾘﾝｸ:tubo.80.kg
It is pronounced Turbo in english with the R sound. so tubo is better for Japanese I think.
149: 2006/07/31(月) 14:12:04 ID:dTzQ3wKq(1)調 AAS
Mr.jim,
How is it thought about the responsibility?
For instance, to the lawsuit because of the outside.
(The volunteer doesn't assume the responsibility in two channels. )
150: 2006/07/31(月) 14:32:03 ID:hi8HcAsn(1)調 AAS
ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ bokki-age
151: 2006/07/31(月) 14:38:31 ID:Sb043K9s(1)調 AAS
Jim hello. I depend on machine translation.
A Japanese law is revised.
I think that there is a problem in "外部ﾘﾝｸ:test.up.bbspink.com
When an illegal image was uploaded, bbspink is brought into question directly by 1, uploader of bbspink. It is different from a note of url of a bulletin board
Because 2, a bbspink bulletin board do not suffer from a site to offer an obscene image falling under a Japanese law to, I think that it is the method that is not good that treat an image in a bbspink domain.
3, anyone can make a page letting you think that you prepared of bbspink. Confusion happens thereby.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:test.up.bbspink.com
This is a made example.
There is little demand for "外部ﾘﾝｸ:test.up.bbspink.com
I wish that I want use to stop.
Even if there is not uploader, there can be a bbspink bulletin board.
I am concerned about problem outbreak by uploader in bbspink.
152: ありす ◆Alice7XIII 2006/07/31(月) 14:48:39 ID:f9ABvoJM(1/3)調 AAS
There are two questions in Jim_san.
Responsibility of the person that the first deletes it is a thing to where.
IZUMI_san is the same as it being asked you a question in res.
It is asked so a court of law responsibility about deletion in 2ch,
and I do not intend to appear.
The second is a question about a leader.
A leader manages an account of other members.
I mean as for it namely that I obtain personal information of other members.
A deletion account and personal e-mail address.
A leader seems to be a - turn to totally clean, and, as for me, there is resistance in what - changes in one year.
153: ありす ◆Alice7XIII 2006/07/31(月) 14:53:10 ID:f9ABvoJM(2/3)調 AAS
ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ ｳﾜｧｧｧﾝ！
I feel like being machine translation tatters. . . .
My English is strange
154: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/07/31(月) 15:05:36 ID:laeG3rQ4(6/7)調 AAS
Maybe I am making a mistake on asking for a 1 year office?
155(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/07/31(月) 15:13:14 ID:laeG3rQ4(7/7)調 AAS
I was going to answer each question individually but so many are basically the repeated question
of who is responsible.
Let me answer.
I am completely responsible for bbspink. Nobody else has any legal liability with it.
deleters are volunteers, and are not to be known publicly. personal information will not be collected
If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA, and only I will have access to it.
156(2): ひろゆき 2006/07/31(月) 15:22:05 ID:Y006qBKU(1/3)調 AAS
You's better tell the users:
Why you chose the vote?
What you want the leader do exactly?
157: ひろゆき 2006/07/31(月) 15:23:18 ID:Y006qBKU(2/3)調 AAS
I mean 'You'd'
158: 2006/07/31(月) 15:25:38 ID:/1gCMBK/(1)調 AAS
Dear Mr Jim.
I'm one of the user of bbs pink.
My U.S.E is poor, But I try to be bridge.
That's point is important for everyone, Mr jim.
The Volunteer would like to know the most basic decision of the structure.
"Who will take the legal accountability?"
Court already adjudicated, "bulletin board manager owes legal accountability".
Concretely, - Defamation, violation of Goodwill. - about Compensation for damages.
The Volunteer is not manager, Ofcourse.
The Volunteer is not some part of the management.
That's why, The Volunteer will not able to take the responsibility, specially about legal accountability.
The volunteer only deletes the case with the breach of rules like the machine.
The manager judges the deletion request that reason is illegal.
It is necessary to post it officially.
General's word will move a lot of volunteers. like a military forces.
and, The Volunteer worries about leader knows to another volunteer's privacy.
basicly, -Leak of official secrets-
Could you think about it please.
All the best
159: ありす ◆Alice7XIII 2006/07/31(月) 15:25:55 ID:f9ABvoJM(3/3)調 AAS
Does Jim_san perform setting of a deletion script and setting of a deletion account?
For the staff who cannot speak English, as for it, I think to become a slightly difficult problem.
There is the reason why we request a leader of a deletion person there.
160(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 15:26:28 ID:??? AAS
>>156
Leader will organize the deleters. I want to have the vote because we have
had two nominations for leader, and then we can begin to work on the task at hand.
Leader will also be anonymous and I will take complete responsibility for bbspink.
161: 2006/07/31(月) 15:28:58 ID:z+B1VhFz(1)調 AAS
I recommend ◆ 79EROOYuCc to a leader.
Because she can mediate between Jim and a volunteer by English.
I think that she approaches a bulletin board to think of of Jim than a person showing the leadership.
Besides, she can go out with you in "デンパ". Her circumstances can become a volunteer and a cushion between Jim.
162(4): ひろゆき 2006/07/31(月) 15:30:29 ID:Y006qBKU(3/3)調 AAS
>>160
Are leader obligated to do something?
163(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 15:32:56 ID:??? AAS
>>162
The leader has no obligation to do anything. It is only a matter of convenience
and wanting to do something for the community that will motivate the leader.
I am hoping that our deletion leader is someone that wants to help.
164(2): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 15:39:27 ID:??? AAS
Deletion leader nominations have already been closed.
There is a voting link here. please vote.
外部ﾘﾝｸ:shibuya.v.la
165: 2006/07/31(月) 15:39:55 ID:1pRPOYh0(1/2)調 AAS
リーダーはなになくていいってさ。
ひろゆこを推薦すればいい流れ？
I recommend Hiroyuki to a leader.
166: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/07/31(月) 15:42:09 ID:??? BE AAS
>>162
Hiroyuki-san,
Just I made a cap handle for you.
This handle is "ひろゆき ★", not "どうやら管理人 ★", because you are not
an administrator of bbspink.
But its password is the same as "どうやら管理人 ★" in 2ch.
So, now you can use it here for authenticating yourself.
As you know, currently the BE system does not work in bbspink, so,
I recommend you would use the cap handle for preventing the forgery of
your important writing.
-- Mumumu
167(1): イレイザーラモンHG ◆HG/Ok.YX3U 2006/07/31(月) 15:43:22 ID:TJ1HG7UN(1)調 AAS
機械翻訳なので内容が正確に伝わらないかも知れませんが書いてみます。
ジムさんならびにこのスレを利用されている皆さんこんにちは。HGです。
今日はこちらのスレッドを削除ツールの誤操作で間違えて削除してしまいました。
突然の事でびっくりした人も沢山いらっしゃると思います。
皆さんにご迷惑をおかけして申し訳ございませんでした。すみません。
今後はこのような失敗をしないよう、これまで以上に慎重に慎重に作業していきます。
Because it is machine translation, contents may not come precisely, but try to write it.
All of you hello that it is used Jim and this thread. It is HG.
I have deleted a thread of this place by false operation of a deletion tool by mistake today.
I think that a lot of people surprised at a sudden thing come.
I am sorry to trouble all of you. I'm sorry.
I will carry out such an activity carefully more carefully in future not to fail.
168(1): ひろゆき＠ひろゆき ★ 2006/07/31(月) 15:48:25 ID:??? AAS
test
169: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/07/31(月) 15:51:02 ID:??? BE AAS
>>168
Thank you.
I copied the cap to all bbspink BBS servers. (pie, idol, sakura01-03).
So, you can use this for your important writing in bbspink.
170: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/07/31(月) 15:55:28 ID:qZWZpCUB(3/8)調 AAS
>>164
Good job, Jim-san.
When are you going to close the vote?
I want to wait for voting until hearing their final mind whether they want to be a leader or not.
171: 2006/07/31(月) 15:58:23 ID:1pRPOYh0(2/2)調 BE AAS
>>164
Jim-san
Is it the specification which cannot be voted from PC?
PCから投票出来ないのは仕様ですか？
172(2): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/07/31(月) 16:29:34 ID:??? BE AAS
To: all;
And I have an wish about the previous thread of this.
The current 2ch/bbspink system, the 1000-reached threads are archived to
the pastlog storage.
As you know, the pastlog archive can read by '●' (oyster) system by using
2ch browsers, but currently, oyster system does not support for standard
web browsers, typically IE and Firefox, etc.
So, I think the previous thread should be archived and HTML-nized on
some other place for publishing and referencing our important discussion.
Could someone undertake this?
-- Mumumu
P.S. I think this page should be written in both English and Japanese,
because Jim-san would refer it.
173: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/07/31(月) 16:36:13 ID:??? BE AAS
>>172
> As you know, the pastlog archive can read by '●' (oyster) system by using
> 2ch browsers
should be:
As you know, the pastlog archive can be read by '●' (oyster) system by using
2ch browsers
Sorry.
174(2): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/07/31(月) 16:48:18 ID:qZWZpCUB(4/8)調 AAS
>>172
I undertake it.
175: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/07/31(月) 16:49:53 ID:??? BE AAS
>>174
Thank you. Please do it and show URL here when you've done.
176: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 17:13:51 ID:??? AAS
>>167
I am sorry for the inconvenience. It is the only Japanese voting site I knew.
Don`t most people have cellphone in Japan now?
Please vote anyway domo wazawaza sumi-masen
177(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 17:16:07 ID:??? AAS
>>174
Thank you Mary
178(3): 2006/07/31(月) 17:26:48 ID:gH4Esac5(1)調 BE AAS
ここにあるみたいだよー？
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:kintubo.kakiko.com
previous thread:
Let's talk with Jim-san
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:kintubo.kakiko.com
179: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 17:29:20 ID:??? AAS
OK, lets vote here too.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:tubo000.ninki.net
you can access this through tubo
180: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/07/31(月) 17:32:05 ID:??? BE AAS
>>178
Oh, it's good. Thank you for your pointing.
But Mary-san, you can make your own pastlog archive for getting diversity.
181: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/07/31(月) 17:41:13 ID:??? AAS
>>178 thank you.I bookmarked it. Lots of good memories
182: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/07/31(月) 17:47:24 ID:qZWZpCUB(5/8)調 AAS
>>178
Oh, thank you very much to telling it.
>>177
No problem, anytime.
I don't make the page since there is already here. >>178
183: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/07/31(月) 18:15:47 ID:qZWZpCUB(6/8)調 AAS
(The announcement in Japanese about the vote)
Jim-san says
PINK削除人リーダー投票のアドレスです。投票しましょう。
外部ﾘﾝｸ:shibuya.v.la
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:tubo000.ninki.net
下は壺を通して投票できます。
184: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/07/31(月) 18:57:27 ID:qZWZpCUB(7/8)調 AAS
(Jim-san's words in Japanese)
ジムさんの意図と思われる訳をしますが、間違っている箇所がありましたらご指摘ください。
155 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys [] 投稿日：2006/07/31(月) 15:13:14 ID:laeG3rQ4
I was going to answer each question individually but so many are basically the repeated question
of who is responsible.
Let me answer.
I am completely responsible for bbspink. Nobody else has any legal liability with it.
deleters are volunteers, and are not to be known publicly. personal information will not be collected
If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA, and only I will have access to it.
私は各質問に答えるつもりでしたが、基本的に"誰が責任者なのか"という多数の同じ質問の繰り返しでした。
それにお答えします。
私はBBSPINKにおける全ての責任を負います。
私以外の誰も、いかなる法的な責任を負うことがありません。
削除人は有志であり、公に知らされません。
個人情報は集められません。
もし個人情報が保管されるときは、それは合衆国内にあり、私ただ一人だけがそれにアクセスします。
185: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/07/31(月) 18:59:08 ID:qZWZpCUB(8/8)調 AAS
160 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★[] 投稿日：2006/07/31(月) 15:26:28 ID:???
>>156
Leader will organize the deleters. I want to have the vote because we have
had two nominations for leader, and then we can begin to work on the task at hand.
Leader will also be anonymous and I will take complete responsibility for bbspink.
リーダーは削除人を編制します。
2人の候補者がいるので、私は投票を行いたいと思います。
そして、私達はat handで仕事を始めることができます。（？）
リーダーも同様にanonymouseであり、私が完全にBBSPINKにおける責任を持ちます。
163 名前：Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★[] 投稿日：2006/07/31(月) 15:32:56 ID:???
>>162
The leader has no obligation to do anything. It is only a matter of convenience
and wanting to do something for the community that will motivate the leader.
I am hoping that our deletion leader is someone that wants to help.
リーダーには何の義務もありません。
それは単に便宜上であり、共同体に要求されるものであり、それがリーダーの動機となることでしょう。（？）
私は我々の削除リーダーが、奉仕精神を持つ方であることを望んでいます。
186: 2006/07/31(月) 19:05:56 ID:OHvXDKAP(1/2)調 AAS
I think that I had better pay attention to a reply of Jim_san,
IZUMI_san and TORU_san.
My doubt. Is not there it whether you may be made to take
responsibility because a deletion person does not delete a request?
What is work of a leader of a deletion person?
187: 2006/07/31(月) 19:07:49 ID:OHvXDKAP(2/2)調 AAS
（in Japanese）
訳するスレがあるんだから、訳はそっちへ張ったほうがいいんじゃないか。
188(1): 龍 ◆0RbUzIT0To ＠いちごぴんく ★ 2006/07/31(月) 20:11:10 ID:??? AAS
Jim-san
Handlename is changed.
龍 ◆0RbUzIT0To→苺 ◆BladeyqILk
189(1): 苺 ◆BladeyqILk ＠いちごぴんく ★ 2006/07/31(月) 20:21:42 ID:??? AAS
And
black star mark(★) was gotten from Mr. mumumu.
therefore
The volunteer does as long as time forgives.
190: ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/07/31(月) 22:48:54 ID:6jywh39I(1)調 BE AAS
I propose the faction system.
My judgment is not perfect.
I need person who does an idea different from me.
I still hope some leaders exist.
191: ◆DQN/9/VVV. 2006/08/01(火) 00:02:01 ID:t1PnSMrl(1)調 AAS
Dear Jim-san
I'm sorry for delay of introduce myself.
My name is ◆DQN/9/VVV.
I am honored to place the name in a line as a volunteer.
I also rely on the machine translation.Please forgive the thing.
I should apologize.Because I made a mistake.
I committed an offense a little while ago.
I have deleted writing that should not be deleted.
Url is the this.
2chｽﾚ:kageki2
The writing is being restored now.
I was a stripling yet yet....
It reflects deeply.sorry....orz
192: ◆NerINe83fk 2006/08/01(火) 00:56:53 ID:FFf3Og6x(1)調 AAS
>>145
Thank you.
193: ◆/zZzZz/POE 2006/08/01(火) 03:38:18 ID:49fdB7/k(1)調 AAS
Dear Jim-san
Will you do me a favor.
Because you expressed the situation of "deleter"
I just think that I want to support you in the situation of "deleter".
Is it still in time?
I am the general user of PINKBBS.
Then, I don't belong to the volunteer of "2ch".
I don't often understand but I try to study.
Thanks and Best regards.
194: 2006/08/01(火) 04:01:26 ID:+a0wVnwf(1)調 AAS
Because the performance of the English translation tool is low, it is not
possible to read. ＞＜；
195: ◆IZUMIXFK1. 2006/08/01(火) 08:50:29 ID:2ZcBMKQM(1/4)調 AAS
全責任が誰にあるかではなくて、日本国民の義務を回避するには？って伝えたいんだが・・。
しかし、投票で決めたら匿名じやなくてトオルでも漏れでも誰がリーダーかバレバレじゃないか？
196: 2006/08/01(火) 09:07:37 ID:CX21uNLC(1)調 BE AAS
日本国民の義務って？
「決められた削除GLに則って、淡々と削除する削除人が円滑に削除活動を行えるように、皆をまとめる削除人のリーダー」であって、運営とか法解釈とかの判断はしないんだし、そういうのは華麗にそれをやってみせた、むむむとかちゃろにまかせとけばいいじゃん。
197: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/08/01(火) 12:39:14 ID:uSD7rbmD(1/2)調 AAS
volunteer update
◆IRAIaaV18I
◆DQN/9/VVV.
◆uRW6KoTaRo
◆IZUMI162i6
◆sacrifyqG
◆79EROOYuCc
koro ◆8j1enTAicY
◆MOMOwomoIk
◆MARY/2Kkkc.
ありす ◆Alice7XIII
◆3X1b8VAs/E
◆yzY8OufLJI
◆TECHCS.zfQ
イレイザーラモンHG ◆HG/Ok.YX3U
◆YassyNGhTM
◆IG7FqGWJqU
Techcs ◆TECHCS.zfQ
エボラ ◆172VC7723I
◆NerINe83fk
龍 ◆0RbUzIT0To
halc/cyan ◆duswpnLeMU
苺 ◆BladeyqILk ＠いちごぴんく ★
◆/zZzZz/POE
198: koro ◆8j1enTAicY ＠ころpink ★ 2006/08/01(火) 13:44:19 ID:??? AAS
Dear Jim-san
"龍 ◆0RbUzIT0To" = "苺 ◆BladeyqILk ＠いちごぴんく ★"
>>188-189
Please remove "龍 ◆0RbUzIT0To" from the volunteer list.
199: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/08/01(火) 13:52:22 ID:uSD7rbmD(2/2)調 AAS
volunteer update
◆IRAIaaV18I
◆DQN/9/VVV.
◆uRW6KoTaRo
◆IZUMI162i6
◆sacrifyqG
◆79EROOYuCc
koro ◆8j1enTAicY
◆MOMOwomoIk
◆MARY/2Kkkc.
ありす ◆Alice7XIII
◆3X1b8VAs/E
◆yzY8OufLJI
◆TECHCS.zfQ
イレイザーラモンHG ◆HG/Ok.YX3U
◆YassyNGhTM
◆IG7FqGWJqU
Techcs ◆TECHCS.zfQ
エボラ ◆172VC7723I
◆NerINe83fk
halc/cyan ◆duswpnLeMU
苺 ◆BladeyqILk ＠いちごぴんく ★
◆/zZzZz/POE
200: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/01(火) 14:04:38 ID:Z+oGajBX(1)調 AAS
Hi, Jim-san.
How are you, today?
Is there anything you want to talk about until the vote closed?
201: ◆79EROOYuCc 2006/08/01(火) 14:10:12 ID:4Cm9c52j(1)調 AAS
BBS PINK削除ガイドライン検討スレッド3
2chｽﾚ:erobbs
translation;
Is Jim-san going to make his own guide line? I think he says so.
do you guys forget about that?
202: ◆IZUMIXFK1. 2006/08/01(火) 16:42:40 ID:2ZcBMKQM(2/4)調 AAS
Does TORU-san say "I will be leader"?
203: megaman 2006/08/01(火) 16:47:31 ID:ROYmfdsm(1)調 AAS
I can't become a leader, but I can become a bubble leader.
First, you should crock bubbleman to become it.
204: 2006/08/01(火) 17:02:18 ID:6JNbW0gb(1)調 BE AAS
Jim-san,
If someone requests the deletion for the reasons for defamation, what should deleters do?
Can Deleters judge it is defamation or not?
Or does Jim-san do it?
もし名誉毀損とかの削除依頼があったら削除人はどうすればいい？
削除人が判断してもいい？
それともJimさんが判断する？
205: 2006/08/01(火) 18:37:02 ID:PUfOnfBc(1)調 AAS
削除人が判断したら責任が発生しちゃいますよん。
告訴されて裁判受けなきゃならん類の責任が。
206: 2006/08/01(火) 20:40:18 ID:W5+tTLgI(1)調 AAS
そんなときの管理人裁定のような気が。日本語ですまん
207(1): ◆IZUMIXFK1. 2006/08/01(火) 21:33:41 ID:2ZcBMKQM(3/4)調 AAS
Jim-san,
Can I make KOKOROE between BBSPINK and Deleter that I assign?
208: ◆IZUMIXFK1. 2006/08/01(火) 21:36:09 ID:2ZcBMKQM(4/4)調 AAS
If I can it, I can be leader.
209: 2006/08/01(火) 22:02:56 ID:1pF5omxb(1)調 AAS
I choose izumi-san.
210: 2006/08/02(水) 01:54:07 ID:zEmhxqLM(1)調 AAS
中間発表
外部ﾘﾝｸ:shibuya.v.la
[1]◆IZUMI162i6 67票(51%)
[2]◆ZFz/q7JaS6 ＠TORU ★ 63票(48%)
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:tubo000.ninki.net
1 ◆IZUMI162i6 2
2 ◆ZFz/q7JaS6 ＠TORU ★ 0
211(2): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 03:14:28 ID:yFmhmsds(1/9)調 AAS
>>207
Great, Izumi-san.
Could you explain what kind of KOKOROE you want to assign, and give me a reason?
212: 2006/08/02(水) 05:14:53 ID:ExLgUr+G(1)調 AAS
Jim-san,
There is a thread to exchange child porno on a bbbspink bulletin board.
Do you think that a deletion person should delete the thread?
213(3): ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/02(水) 05:21:35 ID:tlaUhxB1(1/2)調 BE AAS
>>211
(In Japanese)
●削除人とは
・削除人とは限定された条件でのみ任意に削除してもよい権利を与えられた利用者です。
・削除人とは掲示板利用者の交流を守るために存在します。削除によって利用者の交流を妨げないよう配慮してください。
●制限
・削除人はガイドライン及びローカルルールで指定された対象しか削除してはなりません。
ただし、管理者の裁定及び判断は全ての制限よりも優先されます。
・削除人はキャップ漏れ以外の理由で自身の発言を削除してはなりません。
・削除人は削除すべきか迷った投稿を削除してはなりません。
・削除人はガイドライン及びローカルルール上の誹謗中傷の項等権利侵害への配慮により
削除対象と指定されたを根拠に削除を行えますが、 これBBSPINKの自主規制的なものであり
法律に基づいたものではありません。
法律を根拠にした権利侵害の削除依頼について削除人は判断してはなりません。
それはJim氏にのみ判断する権利があります。
・削除人がガイドラインで指定されていない対象を削除した場合、
処理理由についてリーダー及びJim氏に対して説明する義務を負います。
処理理由の説明については削除議論板等にて公開される可能性があります。
・削除人は削除権に伴う自身のアカウントを管理する義務を負います。
・削除人は削除スクリプトに関連した情報や運営に関する情報について守秘義務を負います。
・削除人は削除行為について物品及び金銭の授受を行ってはなりません。
●削除権
・削除権とは限定された範囲で任意に削除を行う権利であり行使しない自由があります。
・削除権の行使は削除依頼の有無に依存しません。依頼は対象を知るきっかけであって一切の権利を制限しません。
・削除人は削除権の行使について管理人に対しKOKOROEに基づいた責任を負います。
・削除人は任意のタイミングで削除権を返却することが出来ます。
・削除人は「制限」を逸脱した場合、削除権を強制的に返却してもらうことがあります。
●必要事項
・削除人は連絡の取れるメールアドレスを保持する必要があります。
・削除人は定期的(期間どうするよ？)に指定された周知(ML?)の内容を確認する必要があります。
・削除人が「必要事項」を満たせなくなる場合は事前に報告する必要があります。
また、その間削除を行ってはなりません。
●お願い
・削除人は削除依頼に対して処理の報告をしてくれるのが好ましいです。
・削除人は自身の個人情報について外部に出さぬよう注意するのが好ましいです。
・削除人は自身の削除に関する行為について問題や疑問が発生した際、報告をするのが好ましいです。
●合意について
・KOKOROEの内容は適宜変更されることがあります。その際１週間(？)の周知期間を設けますので
条件等について意見がある、もしくは合意できなくなる場合はご連絡ください。
とかやっつけで書いて見たが。英語は途中で面倒になったので誰かボスケテ。
また、必要な項目とか修正案とかあったら言ってくれ。
214(2): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 05:39:00 ID:yFmhmsds(2/9)調 AAS
>>213
Could you give each KOKOROE the number for convenience?
Moreover, could you give us the each reason why it is necessary?
215(2): ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/02(水) 06:50:28 ID:tlaUhxB1(2/2)調 BE AAS
>>214
(In Japanese)
長いんで別んとこに置きました。
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:www.h4.dion.ne.jp
1-1, 1-2, 2-1, 2-4,3-1, 3-4 - 削除人のリスク回避のための項目
2chでは「ボランティアです」とあるが、曖昧なニュアンスを含むので利用者とした
削除人が判断しないことで発生するリスクをJim氏に預けるための表現もある
2-2, 2-3, 2-6, 2-7, 2-8, 3-2, 3-3,3-5 - 2chと同様の削除人条件、もしくはその明文化
4-1, 4-2, 4-3 - 周知フローの一元化、及び裁定等による緊急対応などの際の意識統一など情報流通の整備のための項目
2chではhelloとかが下から上への流れに使われているが、上からは多数あるスレの巡回で行ってるのを統一する目的
5-1, 5-2, 5-3 - 削除人がやってくれると嬉しい項目
6-1 - KOKOROEを法律や実際の運用において修正する必要が出てきたときに対応するための項目
2chではいつの間にか書き変わっている事があるが、削除人にはその変更のたびに意見を出したり
リスクを見て削除人を辞めたり判断できる機会が必要だと思うので。
引き續き意見募集中。
216: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 07:02:47 ID:yFmhmsds(3/9)調 AAS
>>215
Okey, I am going to try to translate >>211 in English.
Give me a time about an half of a day.
217(1): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 08:48:09 ID:yFmhmsds(4/9)調 AAS
To: IZUMI-san
2-6 削除人は削除権に伴う自身のアカウントを管理する義務を負います。
この「管理」の意図が不明確です。具体的にお願いします。
218(1): 2006/08/02(水) 08:49:20 ID:QKKereGU(1)調 BE AAS
蓮割れしないようにとか、そういう意味の「管理」じゃね？
219(1): 2006/08/02(水) 08:52:40 ID:NxoZTk2H(1)調 AAS
>>217
(In Japanese)
削除人は、削除権を持つアカウント情報を、他者に漏洩してはなりません。
とかの方が英訳しやすいかな？
220: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 08:59:23 ID:yFmhmsds(5/9)調 AAS
>>218>>219
I got it. Thanks.
221: 2006/08/02(水) 09:58:13 ID:ea+rvBsK(1)調 AAS
ねえ、心得スレでやった方がいいと思うけど
なんでjimスレで修正や意見を出し合ってるの？
スレ違いじゃね
222: ◆uRW6KoTaRo 2006/08/02(水) 10:44:47 ID:d4BpxzfM(1)調 AAS
何度言っても分からんのねこの人
223(1): 2006/08/02(水) 10:58:35 ID:s4nOiREG(1/2)調 AAS
>>215-221
The deleter must not leak out own account for deletion under his control.
224: 2006/08/02(水) 11:07:55 ID:s4nOiREG(2/2)調 AAS
>>223 PLZ REMOVE THE WORD >his>[NO NEED] or REPLACE his TO"one's"
SORRY. :-(
225: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 12:55:43 ID:yFmhmsds(6/9)調 AAS
To: Jim-san,
These are IZUMI-san's ideas of "KOKOROE".
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:www.h4.dion.ne.jp
He is hoping to be a leader under this condition.
The purposes of his ideas are to protect a deleter from a law risk, to avoid making a mistake, and to organize smoothly.
A purpose of my translation is only that you to understand his ideas roughly.
These rules have to be edited substantially and grammatically before issuing, if you use his ideas.
226: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 12:56:14 ID:yFmhmsds(7/9)調 AAS
(Please change "he" to "she" when it is necessary.)
"KOKOROE", RULES OF DELETER
●1. WHAT IS A DELETER?
1. A deleter is a BBSPINK user who is given the right to delete only under the limited condition.
2. A deleter is being for protecting the user's smooth communication.
Therefore, a deleter pays attention about not disturbing the user's communication on his work of deletion.
●2. A LIMIT OF WORK OF A DELETER
1. A deleter deletes only an object which is appointed on a deletion policy and a local rule;
however, Jim's judgement is more than all rules.
2. A deleter does not delete his posting by himself except posting his cap information.
3. A deleter does not delete a posting when he is not sure a posting should be deleted or not.
4. A deleter deletes a posting of a rights abuse along a deletion policy and a local rule,
but must not to do a judgement along a law.
A deleter does not have a right to do a judgement it by a law, but only Jim has a right to judge it by a law.
(A purpose is to protect a deleter from a law risk.)
5. If a deleter has deleted a posting which is not appointed on a deletion policy, he has to explain to Jim and a leader why he has done it.
It may be opened on a thread of discussion of a deletion.
6. The deleter must not leak out own account information of deletion under one's control.
7. A deleter has to keep a secret about information of a script of deletion and information of administration.
8. A deleter must not get a thing or money for his work on deletion.
227: ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 12:56:53 ID:yFmhmsds(8/9)調 AAS
●3. A DELETER'S RIGHT OF DELETION
1. A deleter deletes a posting along a deletion policy, and also he has a right freely to leave a posting without deleting.
2. A request of deletion helps a deleter to find a posting, but also he has a right to delete without a request.
3. A deleter takes responsibility to Jim along the rules of deleter when he uses his right to delete.
4. A deleter is allowed to quit a work whenever he wants to.
5. A deleter may be forced to quit when he works beyond a limit of the rules.
●4. NECESSARY THINGS
1. A deleter needs to reserve an e-mail address for contact.
2. A deleter needs to check for new notes (Mailing List?) for deleters within a required period.(How long?)
3. A deleter has to report in advance when he cannot be on conditions of "Necessary Things".
●5. THINGS TO PLEASE DO IF POSSIBLE
1. A deleter please reports after deleting for a request, if it is possible.
2. A deleter please pays attention not to open on the public about his personal information, if it is possible.
3. A deleter please reports when he has a problem or a question on his work, if it is possible.
●6. ABOUT AN AGREEMENT
1. The rules of deleter may be changed sometimes.
A deleter contacts Jim or a leader within a week(?) if he does not agree with the new rules.
228(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/02(水) 16:29:10 ID:KYblzdk8(1/6)調 AAS
Folks,
I am trying translation Izumi-san's KOKOROE by using my spare time.
This is completely my hobby and one of the trainings of my English skill.
So it is like masturbating. :-)
外部ﾘﾝｸ[txt]:mumumu.mu
I think the KOKOROE is very good, so, I want to translate to English
only for my motivation.
Regards,
229: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/02(水) 16:30:43 ID:KYblzdk8(2/6)調 AAS
But my work is very slow, so, please don't count on my translations.
230: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/02(水) 17:16:38 ID:KYblzdk8(3/6)調 AAS
I updated the translations to DRAFT-2.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[txt]:mumumu.mu
This is the English translations of >>214.
Any comments are welcome.
231: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/02(水) 17:20:22 ID:KYblzdk8(4/6)調 AAS
(in Japanese)
ということで適当に訳してみました。
あえて、硬い言い回しで訳しています。
あと、章立てを 1. 2. ... / 1.1 1.2 ... としてみました。
一部、意訳っぽいところも含まれています。
できるだけ文意が伝わるように訳してみたつもりですが、
たぶん突っ込みどころがいろいろあると思います。
そのへんは、随時ここにて。
232(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/02(水) 17:32:16 ID:KYblzdk8(5/6)調 AAS
I uploaded DRAFT-2.1. It includes slightly fixes.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[txt]:mumumu.mu
- their deletions. The explanations may publish in suitable
+ their deletions. The explanations may be published in suitable
- 2.6 The deleters must administrate by themselves their deletion
- account.
+ 2.6 The deleters must administrate in their good intentions their
+ deletion account by themselves.
And I can't update my translation until tonight for my main job.
233(1): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/02(水) 17:40:22 ID:yFmhmsds(9/9)調 AAS
>>232
What a beautiful and an academical writing, it is!
I am sure that Jim-san will understand more deeply after reading your draft.
I hope Jim-san likes KOKOROE.
Otudesu.
234: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/02(水) 18:35:27 ID:KYblzdk8(6/6)調 BE AAS
>>233
Thank you. But as seen, the translation is still under constructing.
I will continue translation by my spare time.
And after I complete translation,
I think it is one of the common resources of BBSPINK,
and I wish Izumi-san maintains it, too.
235(2): ◆ANALFUCKo6 2006/08/02(水) 19:23:58 ID:5b4pELPu(1)調 AAS
I would like to become a volunteer at BBSPINK.
236(1): ◆SELEN/.zg6 2006/08/03(木) 21:13:52 ID:0dWbxtNu(1)調 AAS
(In Japanese)
>>213 質問があります。
削除権の行使は削除依頼の有無に依存しません。依頼は対象を知るきっかけであって一切の権利を制限しません。
一切の権利を制限しません、←この部分なのですが
削除依頼がされた投稿のみに削除権を行使できる、と言う事ではない、つまり「通りすがりでも削除できますよ」 と言う理解で宜しいでしょうか？
・削除人は削除行為について物品及び金銭の授受を行ってはなりません。 ←この一文に関してなのでが
この場合の「金銭の授受」とは、いわゆる「削除行使」による「労働対価」を受け取っては成らない、と言う意味なのか、もしくは
「削除行為」に関して、「受託」を受け何らかの「恣意的行動」を行う、つまり「賄賂」による「不正な削除行為」に、関して言及されているのでしょうか？
または、そのどちらの意味の含むのでしょうか？
おたずねしたいと思います、 よろしければご回答下さい。
237: koro ◆8j1enTAicY 2006/08/03(木) 21:56:57 ID:V1oOFxdd(1)調 AAS
(In Japanese)
>>213>>215>>236を以下のスレにも転載しました。
PINKの削除依頼板＆削除心得。。。2
2chｽﾚ:erobbs
238(5): 2006/08/04(金) 00:30:17 ID:CsgMTwsF(1/2)調 AAS
Hello jim-san.
I am suffering an illness. The sickness is epilepsy.
It is not usually at all and is peaceful.
Whether when and where the sickness occurs is not understood.
It is necessary to take a rest all day long when the sickness occurs.
In a word, it is not understood that it becomes impossible when to do
the duty suddenly due to sickness.
May even such man do the volunteer?
239: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/04(金) 04:36:48 ID:9uDDZiw2(1/4)調 AAS
Izumi-san,
If you can, please add "Document version" and "Last Update" in the "KOKOROE".
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:www.h4.dion.ne.jp
I will apply them to my English translated version.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[txt]:mumumu.mu
240: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/04(金) 06:16:51 ID:9uDDZiw2(2/4)調 AAS
I translated Izumi-san's KOKOROE to the last minute.
It is DRAFT-3 version.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[txt]:mumumu.mu
I think that it is still incomplete.
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.
-- Mumumu
241(1): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys 2006/08/04(金) 10:25:54 ID:JvfbYFlU(1)調 AAS
>>238 epilepsy ok
242(2): Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/08/04(金) 10:36:43 ID:??? AAS
外部ﾘﾝｸ:shibuya.v.la
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:tubo000.ninki.net
This was a very very close election. The poll results show Izumi winning by
2 votes. Congratulations Izumi
This election was so close, and I think that shows that both candidates are respected
by our community.
243(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI ＠桃色吐息 ★ 2006/08/04(金) 11:32:35 ID:??? BE AAS
>>242
Jim-san,
Above URL seems that the vote still may be continued.
But you said that the vote was closed, so, I think now the _current_ voting status
is invalid and the vote was completed. Is it correct?
If so, I think you need to show the actual result of the vote at this thread
for clarification.
Regards,
-- Mumumu
244(2): 2006/08/04(金) 12:50:55 ID:LSF1GgP+(1/2)調 AAS
>>242
shibuya tubo total
IZUMI 106 5 111
TORU 108 3 111
245(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/04(金) 13:00:07 ID:9uDDZiw2(3/4)調 BE AAS
>>244
Hmm. Tubo's one already closed, I think.
Is mobile phone version closed, too?
246: Jim ◆6P7QkQf8Ys ＠Apparently admin ★ 2006/08/04(金) 13:25:07 ID:??? AAS
>>243
I did not know how to turn it off, but vote is over now. Sorry for the confusion.
I hope we did better than Florida does....;)
247(1): 2006/08/04(金) 13:25:55 ID:LSF1GgP+(2/2)調 AAS
>>245
Yes, with both site, acceptance of a vote is finished.
248: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/04(金) 13:37:44 ID:9uDDZiw2(4/4)調 BE AAS
>>247
Ok, I understand.
>>247
Thank you.
If so, is the result of the vote completely tie? (>>244)
249: 2006/08/04(金) 20:26:30 ID:TPde7R9F(1)調 AAS
どう見てもインチキ入ってるんだからjimが良いと思う奴を
自分で考えて自分でそいつに頼め
250: 238 2006/08/04(金) 20:47:16 ID:CsgMTwsF(2/2)調 AAS
>>241 Jim-san.
Very very thank you for Jim-san. And I love you!!!!
With the illness, although I may sometimes make jim-san and other friends trouble,
I will propose to a volunteer.
Thank you for your consideration.
251(1): ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/04(金) 23:52:06 ID:mo4U8FIq(1)調 BE AAS
Dear Jim-san,
If you permit me to use my KOKOROE, I become a leader
But, I still recommend two or more leaders.
Each leader has each policy and KOKOROE.
It will give birth to the diversity not biased to specific sense of values.
252(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/05(土) 00:36:46 ID:ETNn4yPI(1/4)調 BE AAS
>>251
Izumi-san,
How do you evaluate my translation of your KOKOROE?
I am not sure whether my translation satisfies you or not.
And if it has qualified to your criteria,
I wish to transfer its management to you.
253(1): ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/05(土) 01:23:26 ID:fvc5vD7L(1/5)調 BE AAS
>>252
(In Japanese)
難しい表現があってまだ読み切れてません。
すんまそん。
254(1): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/05(土) 01:28:07 ID:z8CX7RjH(1/2)調 AAS
>>253
（IN Japanese）
私もつたない英語力で、4時間以上かけて頑張ったから、私のも読んでねｗ。
255: ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/05(土) 02:30:10 ID:fvc5vD7L(2/5)調 BE AAS
>>254
（In English）
OK Sir.
（In Japanese）
ういうい
256(1): ◆MARY/2Kkkc 2006/08/05(土) 08:14:52 ID:z8CX7RjH(2/2)調 AAS
To: Jim-san
It was an interesting vote result that two candidates got almost same number of votes.
I can see from the results that both candidates did not do an injustice, and neither did the users.
I am glad that the BBSPINK users are moral and gentle.
I am so excited at starting the new BBSPINK under Jim-san and a new leader.
◆ANALFUCKo6 (>>235) and >>238 are offering to become the volunteers.
257(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/05(土) 12:37:45 ID:ETNn4yPI(2/4)調 BE AAS
Izumi-san,
Just I found some changes in your KOKOROE.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:www.h4.dion.ne.jp
I will apply them to my English translation later.
And I have two wishes to you about your KOKOROE.
1) Please add version number and last modified date/time for clarification.
2) If you can, please notify all changes in this thread for notifying to Jim-san.
I think the quality of your KOKOROE is very good and bright, so,
I decided do masturbating. (>>228)
Regards,
258(1): 2006/08/05(土) 13:35:09 ID:fvc5vD7L(3/5)調 AAS
>>257
OK.
Please refer to datetime Attribute for detailed correction time.
When KOKOROE is corrected, I am doing the markup with INS and DEL Elements.
259(1): ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/05(土) 13:35:33 ID:fvc5vD7L(4/5)調 BE AAS
258=me
260: 238 2006/08/05(土) 15:28:28 ID:OSwJf7Es(1)調 AAS
>>256
メールを出そうと思います。
ただ、試験をどの程度書けばいいか、前スレのものなのか迷っています。
（確かこのスレの概要とあったので）
261(1): ◆mura2zOUT. 2006/08/05(土) 15:29:14 ID:6BsjCmgy(1)調 AAS
Jim-san
I want to become a volunteer.
I will work on deletion if recognized.
262: ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/05(土) 20:19:39 ID:fvc5vD7L(5/5)調 BE AAS
Jim-san,
First version fo The guideline of BBSPINK did Fix.
◆SELEN/.zg6-san is translating it now.
When his work is completed, I ask whether it contradicts your policy.
263(1): ◆ZFz/q7JaS6 ＠TORU ★ 2006/08/05(土) 22:59:14 ID:??? AAS
Congratulations Izumi-san, you are leader.
残りは、和泉さんにさえ分かればいいので、日本語で書きます。
心得は、貴方とボランティアさんの契約事項ではなく、
管理人さんとボランティアさん達との契約事項ではないんですか？
貴方の希望を全て詰め込むよりも、必要最低限にしておいて、
リーダーとしての希望は、２ちゃんねるでの「注意事項」のように、
別にしたほうがいいと思うんですが。。。
それとも、リーダーが変わる度に心得が変わるのでしょうか？
その場合はその度に、ボランティアさんたちは、変わった心得に
納得できるかどうかで去就を考えなくてはならなくなりますよ。
また、「危険からボランティアさんを守るため」と言いつつ、
具体的に示しておられませんが、どういう危険があるのでしょうか？
心得くらいで守れるものなのでしょうか？
Jimさんは、博之と同じく「全ての責任を取る」と明言しておられます。
それでも危険があるとしたら、管理人さんが根本的に考えるべきです。
いや、危険はあるのは分かってますけどねー。特にリーダーは。。。
264(1): するめのスメル 2006/08/05(土) 23:02:21 ID:0ScSrSvz(1)調 AAS
先に書いておくけど、議論は下記のスレでやってね。
PINKの削除依頼板＆削除心得。。。2
2chｽﾚ:erobbs
265(1): ◆ZFz/q7JaS6 ＠TORU ★ 2006/08/05(土) 23:04:27 ID:??? AAS
あと、貴方は「ボランティアサンたちの自由のために」と書かれていましたが、
どう読んでも不自由度を無闇に増やしていると思うのですよ。
んで、貴方の発言を追ってみたら、「説明責任が」とか
「２ちゃんねるの心得じゃ甘い」とか「システム的にどう」とか、
ボランティアさんを縛る方向の目的ばかり書かれていましたね。
それならそうと、「２ちゃんねるよりボランティアさん達の
自由度を減らすorもっと縛る」と正直に書いちゃったほうがいいのでは？
書いてある内容と逆の理由で、他の人達の期待度を上げておいて、
実際に始まったら厳しい、というのは、あとあと面倒だと思いますよ。
266: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/05(土) 23:09:59 ID:ETNn4yPI(3/4)調 BE AAS
>>258-259
Thank you, Izumi-san.
I applied your changes in my English translation
and added the based version number of original document.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:www.h4.dion.ne.jp (Izumi-san's original version, in Japanese)
外部ﾘﾝｸ[txt]:mumumu.mu (Translated version, in English)
Follows are differences from previous version:
@@ -58,4 +57,4 @@
- 2.8 The deleters must not receive any articles and money as a value
- of their deletions.
+ 2.8 The deleters must not receive any benefits as a value of their
+ deletions.
@@ -85,4 +84,5 @@
- 4.2 The deleters must confirm the contents of regular announcement
- by mailing list and in BBSPINK bulletin boards.
+ 4.2 The deleters must confirm the notifications before using their
+ competence that are noticed by mailing lists, BBSPINK bulletin
+ boards and other specified media.
Regards,
267(1): ◆ZFz/q7JaS6 ＠TORU ★ 2006/08/05(土) 23:10:30 ID:??? AAS
最後。貴方は、「自分が気に入らないならボランティアに
ならなくてもいい」「何人かリーダーを置いて派閥を作る」が持論のようですが。
でも、派閥によって削除するものが変われば、
場合によっては「＊＊は削除対象じゃない」「いや削除するべき」と
デリーターさん同士のぶつかりあいが起こったり、
「○○派が＊＊を削除しないので●●派の人が来てください」とか、
「××派にあたって運が悪かった」など、利用者さんにも混乱が起こります。
そして、違う派閥のデリーターさん同士が、削除の判断で揉めた場合、
管理人に認められた和泉さんが最終的に調整するんだから、
結局、それ以外の派閥の判断も和泉さんに従わなければなりませんよね。
また、デリーターさんによって削除される範囲が違うということは、
削除されるものの幅が広がるんだから、いろんな意味でデメリットを生みます。
お願いです、貴方はリーダーなのだから、
全てのボランティアさんを導いてください。そして守ってください。
「自分について来れない奴はボランティアになるな」なんて撤回してください。
そして精一杯頑張ってください。。。
では、おいらはこれでー。
268: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/05(土) 23:14:48 ID:ETNn4yPI(4/4)調 BE AAS
>>263 >>265 >>267
Toru-san,
As >>264 said, your discussing topic is "Sure-Chigai" ("not suitable for discussing it").
so, please move the thread that is specified by >>264.
269(3): ◆ZFz/q7JaS6 ＠TORU ★ 2006/08/05(土) 23:25:23 ID:??? AAS
Jim-san,
I send to you volunteer application mail what I keep.
And afterwards, I annul those mail.
You said "If there is personal information it will be kept in the USA,
and only I will have access to it.".
I hope it forever.
270(1): Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/06(日) 00:46:34 ID:jdL80jO8(1/2)調 BE AAS
Izumi-san and folks,
I've stolen your html, css and jpg files from your original web page,
for making HTML version of my English translation.
外部ﾘﾝｸ[html]:mumumu.mu
Izumi-san, sorry for my shameless stealing without any notices.
But I think you can merge my English translation into your web page.
Regards,
P.S. I applied slightly changes to the document at that time,
e.g. the deleters => deleters.
271(1): ◆IZUMI162i6 2006/08/06(日) 00:56:07 ID:P81jXDbV(1/2)調 BE AAS
>>270
THX!
Please wait to present the site to Jim-san as a formal version.
We should talk a little more.
あ、このJPGは葉鍵ではトラウマになってるであろうアレなので正式版では消す予定です。
色々マズそうだし。背景はPINKの物を適当に使って・・・・。
272: Mumumu ◆MUMUMUhnYI 2006/08/06(日) 01:21:00 ID:jdL80jO8(2/2)調 BE AAS
>>271
Ok, I agree with you.
I slightly fixed and uploaded my English translation by using Yahoo translation
as the same URI.
I fixed this version as today's one, and it is time for taking a bath and going to bed.
Oyasuminasai.
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