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941: 名無しさん [sage]

>>939
54 : 名無し草 2016/04/07(木) 20:16:00.66
>>18
某ブログで掲載されていた翻訳

「ボストンのフィギュアスケート世界選手権において、カザフのデニス・テン選手と日本の羽生結弦選手の間で起きた問題に関する報道を受け、
カザフスタンスケート連盟のTatyana Russinova 国際部長が、次のようにコメントした。

「日本スケート連盟の代表者からは、月曜日に電話をいただきました。公式文書も送られてきています。
私が毎日パソコンを開くたびに目にするのがなんだと思います？日本のフィギュアスケートファンからのたくさんのメールやメッセージです。
内容は羽生選手の行動に対するお詫び。羽生の行動は日本の信用を傷つけるものだと言っている人もいます。」
Kazinformの特派員Damir Baimanov.とのインタビューでRussinova 氏は述べた。

Tatyana Russinova 氏は、記者の要望に応え、日本のファンからのEメールの一つを読み上げてくれた。
「私は羽生結弦選手の誤った行為と狂信的な彼のファンたちの行動についてお詫びするために、このお手紙を書いています。
日本のファンたちはデニスが高潔な若者であり、他のスケーターを傷つけるような人ではないということを知っています。
羽生選手が大人げなかっただけだと信じています。この出来事は日本にとって恥ずべきことです。
デニス・テン選手にひどいメッセージを送った人たちは真のフィギュアスケートファンではありません。
彼らは羽生選手だけの忠実なファン。彼のやることならどんな間違ったことでも正当化しようとするのです。
デニスとカザフスタンの皆さんには、日本のファンが今回の出来事を申し訳なく思っていることを知っていただきたいのです。」

つづく

61 : 名無し草 2016/04/07(木) 20:16:49.67
>>54 つづき

Russinova氏は一日に何通もこのようなメッセージを受け取ると言う。
彼女はまたデニス・テンが自身が直面した批判に対して取った行動についても力説した。
「私はデニスがソーシャルメディアに載せたコメントを読んで、彼が礼儀正しい若者だと確信しました。
デニスは挑発やヒステリーに負けずにコメントやメッセージに対応していました。」
Russinova氏によると、カザフスタンスケート連盟はこの件によって日本スケート連盟との関係を損なうことは望んでいないと言う。

「日本スケート連盟は国際スケート連盟に苦情を申し立てないでほしいと言ってきました。
スキャンダルは避けてほしいと強く要請されたのです。我々は日本スケート連盟と密接に協力して動いています。
オリンピックチャンピオンとは言ってもたった一人の選手の間違った行動のために日本人との関係を損なうことは望んでいません。
これはとても大切なことです。日本スケート連盟は羽生選手に自分のやったことの非を認めさせるために最善をつくしてくれました。」
とRussinova氏は付け加えた。

http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/study/12244/1403067152/941

946: 名無しさん [sage]

24 : 情熱大陸書き起こしアーモまとめ２　2016/04/11(月) 00:13:32.86
500 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:19:54.75 ID:V87E3igx
3A　2010年より2014年の方が出来映え点のびてる
2010年　しっかり助走付けて宙に舞い上がる
2014年　チェンジエッジ→バックアウトカウンターで助走無しに跳び、
スプレットイーグル

516 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:21:15.30 ID:V87E3igx
スタッフは密かに左足に激しい痛みがある事を聞かされていたが、
激痛がある事はおくびにも出さなかったそうです（棒）

550 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:23:35.19 ID:V87E3igx
オーサー「本番でここまで疲れてられない」
トレーシー？「疲れているときこそ膝を使え
　つま先に体重がかかるから前屈みになる
　バランスが必要」

591 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:27:14.84 ID:V87E3igx
―自分て強い人間ですか　弱い人間ですか
「いや弱いです。弱いからこそ、そこで遮断しないと未だ出来ないんですよ
　強ければ周りがどんな環境だろうと自分を作り出せると思う
　作れないのは自分が弱いからだと思うんですよね」

601 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:28:41.71 ID:V87E3igx
―辛いときはどう乗り越える？
「乗り越えようとしない。辛いものは辛い
　辛いんだったらもう止めちゃえばいいし、それでいいと思ってます僕は」

31 : 情熱大陸書き起こしアーモまとめ３ 2016/04/11(月) 00:14:45.17
610 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:33:49.12 ID:V87E3igx
世界選手権後ヅル
「はっきり言って僕はこのままでは終わらないし、次の目標に向けて
　自分の理想、自分がしたい事、自分のスケートをもっと高めたいと思っています」
「だから全部スケートに生かしていって、スケートと自分の生活は割り切れないけれど、
　割り切らなきゃいけないところも多分あると思う
　そのメリハリをしっかり付けて、自分の中でもスケートという物を
　心から楽しめたらと思います」

611 ：名無しさん＠おどらにゃｿﾝｿﾝ：2016/04/10(日) 23:35:16.27 ID:V87E3igx
ナレ「進化を続ける21歳。目の前には誰も見た事無いの荒野が広がっている」
（情熱大陸　了）

http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/study/12244/1403067152/946

948: 名無しさん [sage]

http://www.figureskating-online.com/cacophony.html
Cacophony of the outraged
Wrong words - and what they can cause

Figure skating is not an aggressive sport. Skaters compete against each other, but off the ice they are mostly friendly with each other.
Rivals might sit together in the dining room and have lunch before they go out trying to better each other on the ice a few hours later.
But sometimes their fans think they need to be at war with each other.

In the Men’s short program practice at the practice rink at the World Figure Skating Championships in Boston on Wednesday, March 30,
Japan’s super star Yuzuru Hanyu and Kazakhstan’s Olympic bronze medalist Denis Ten got close to each other on the ice.
This happens sometimes, skaters get too close to each other, maybe not paying enough attention as they are too absorbed in what they are doing.
Several eye witnesses confirmed that Yuzuru was skating to his music while Denis was doing a spin. There was enough room around Denis,
but Yuzuru almost ran into him. There was no physical contact, nobody was hurt. Apparently Yuzuru got upset and yelled at Denis.

It was a minor incident that usually quickly would have been forgotten. Unfortunately, when Yuzuru spoke to the press in the mixed zone that day,
he accused Denis of trying to hurt him and intentionally being in his way. There was no reason for this kind of severe accusation, however,
some media greedily picked it up and blew the whole incident out of proportion.

Who could seriously believe that one skater tried to hurt another skater? I’ve been covering figure skating for more than 20 years now.
I’ve seen many near-collisions in practice and warm up and several actual collisions, but never ever one skater accused another skater
of intentionally trying to do anything wrong. Yuzuru probably said this as he was under high stress and had the terrible accident
on his mind when he collided with Han Yan in the warm up during Cup of China in 2014. So he kind of overreacted,
but some journalists happily used it to create a scandal and even wrote about a “protest” or “complaint”
that the Japanese Skating Federation planned to file.

http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/study/12244/1403067152/948

949: 名無しさん [sage]

>>948の続き
As a result, some of Yuzuru’s fans also overreacted and started sending threats and hate mail to Denis.
Authorities in Kazakhstan read the one-sided media reports and were not amused.
There were also reasonable voices from journalists and fans, but they somehow were overheard in the cacophony of the outraged.
Someone even went as far as posting a video from another warm up or practice session where Denis and Yuzuru came close to each other
and used this as “proof”. Get a life. You can see many, many such situations between many different skaters.
Interesting enough, the video of the practice session in Boston was not shown, although Fuji TV was there and taped the session.
There should be footage from the incident, but they don’t release it.

Unfortunately, the Japanese Skating Federation apparently did not realize how the whole situation developed
and did not intervene right away. Only on Saturday team leader Yoshiko Kobayashi told the press that the Federation doesn’t file
any kind of protest and never intended to do so. The Japanese Skating Federation also confirmed this in a letter to the Kazakhstan authorities.

In the end, only both skaters suffered from these careless words in the mixed zone, because Yuzuru received also some criticism.
Yuzuru approached Denis on Saturday, they talked to each other, they shook hands. They closed this chapter, but unfortunately some people
(who think they are fans) still didn’t let go. Even when Denis published a photo of him and Yuzuru shaking hands, they wouldn’t stop arguing.

It is enough now.

And, by the way, in the free skating practice at the main rink on Friday, Yuzuru, who was skating to his music, got really close to Shoma Uno,
who was doing a spin. Shoma just was able to get out of the way in the last second. Would anyone seriously believe that Shoma was intentionally
in Yuzuru’s way or tried to hurt him?

Tatjana Flade

http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/study/12244/1403067152/949

954: 名無しさん [sage]

>>953
追記の部分

Additional comment:

There was a lot of feedback to this article, both negative and positive. There are some people
you can discuss with and some you can’t as everyone has their own truth sometimes.
Therefore I decided not to react to Twitter comments. This matter should be put to rest.
However, I thought over everything again and I edited the article in four places and marked them by stars.

*My main criticism towards Yuzuru Hanyu was that he accused Denis Ten of being intentionally
in his way or even “trying to hurt him”. This criticism was based on an article that quoted
Yuzuru in that way. However, I did not make it clear that I relied on a quote in an article.
The quote in the article might have been distorted or wrong as some people say. I cannot prove
one or the other as I have no voice recording from the mixed zone.

**I took out “Yuzuru’s fans” as some of his honest fans felt offended as they never would send
hate mail or nasty comments. I do not want to blame all of his fans. There are just some nasty
people out there that hide in the anonymity of the internet, they are not necessarily Yuzuru’s fans.

***I changed “careless words in the mixed zone” to “incident”.

**** I added another paragraph to make my point clear. I realize that many people read this article
who don’t know English so well and they might not completely understand all nuances.

This article is not directed against Yuzuru Hanyu or any other skater and it is not about who was doing
what in the practice session. The main point of this article is to illustrate what can happen
when comments are blown out of proportion and to criticize those people that continue to fight
even after the issue has been settled by the skaters.

Tatjana Flade

http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/study/12244/1403067152/954

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