[過去ログ] どんぐりシステムについて話しましょう ★36 (1002レス)
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(7): 警備員[Lv.1(前8)][苗警] 05/04(土)11:04 ID:sOk8/rdw0(1) AAS
どんぐりシステム
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2: 警備員[Lv.4][新初] 05/04(土)11:11 ID:M3uo2+9d0(1) AAS
てす
3: 警備員[Lv.4][新初] 05/04(土)11:13 ID:yltj/b+Q0(1/2) AAS
OKOK
>>1、ナイス
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(1): 警備員[Lv.1(前5)][新初] 05/04(土)11:42 ID:yltj/b+Q0(2/2) AAS
人が来ないな
5: 警備員[Lv.6][新苗] 05/06(月)21:14 ID:pnIPBZFB0(1) AAS
枯れてるんじゃないの
6: 警備員[Lv.8(前12)][苗] 05/06(月)21:22 ID:aWuqU/wJd(1) AAS
飽きた。
7: 警備員[Lv.6][新苗] 05/06(月)21:34 ID:F2t7EIHL0(1) AAS
本スレは別だね
8: 警備員[Lv.13][初] 05/07(火)14:44 ID:/1KU/cfn0(1/5) AAS
ここか
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(1): どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.31(前186)][UR武][UR防][木] 05/07(火)14:45 ID:CAP_USER(1/61) AAS
>>4
Im here now.
10: 警備員[Lv.19(前26)][苗] 05/07(火)14:46 ID:aI8RNNO/0(1) AAS
いちいち開くのに時間かかるのなんで?
11: 警備員[Lv.6(前5)][新苗] 05/07(火)14:47 ID:EL32ZZpW0(1/5) AAS
>>9
こっちでしたか
12: 警備員[Lv.12(前21)][] 05/07(火)14:54 ID:TABttZop0(1/7) AAS
ここね
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(5): どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.32(前186)][UR武][UR防][木] 05/07(火)15:00 ID:CAP_USER(2/61) AAS
The other threads have [大砲禁止].
I think allowing 大砲 is more interesting.
14: 警備員[Lv.3][新初] 05/07(火)15:06 ID:Yuj7LwfU0(1/3) AAS
>>13
I agree. Or rather,
certain scripts are using it to cause trouble.
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(1): 警備員[Lv.3(前7)][新苗] 05/07(火)15:09 ID:QGHM+xBWd(1) AAS
>>13
You can't collect equipment because it dries up quickly.
Also, I'm not the only victim.
Even if only I could equip it, it would be a waste.

Above all, there is no explanation from the management, and I think many people don't know about it.

Please understand that the situation is not as simple as being able to deal with depending on whether you have the equipment or not.



すぐに枯れてしまうので装備を収集できません。
また、被害者は私だけではないので、
私一人が装備できても無駄でしょう。
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16: 警備員[Lv.15(前15)][苗] 05/07(火)15:14 ID:pPCWVe8T0(1/2) AAS
>>13
Yesterday, for the first time in a long time, a script troll with a corpse image came.
Unfortunately, the vandalism alert did not respond.
The board and time I came to are as follows, and I will paste multiple threads in the sample.
What the trolls have in common is that most of them are security guards [Lv.1] [Sprout]

The trolls are persistent, but I hope they take measures to prevent them from writing completely.

昨日久々に死体画像のスクリプト荒らしが来ていました。
残念ながら荒らしアラートは反応がなかった。
来ていた板と時間は以下の通りで、サンプルで複数のスレッドを貼ります。
荒らしに共通しているのは今までと変わらず、大半が警備員[Lv.1][新芽]
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17: 警備員[Lv.17][苗] 05/07(火)15:19 ID:bPsdnQg+0(1) AAS
>>13
When purchasing UPLIFT, there is an explanation of the service that allows you to avoid various restrictions on posting and creating threads.

With the advent of Acorn Cannon, posting and creating threads are restricted when logging in to UPLIFT, which is an unauthorized modification of services and a violation of the contract.

Acorn Cannon should be applied only to users who do not purchase or pay for UPLIFT, and encourage users to purchase UPLIFT if they do not like the regulations.
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(1): 警備員[Lv.3][新初] 05/07(火)15:30 ID:Yuj7LwfU0(2/3) AAS
>>13
As someone said before, could you please restore "Sanba24" to prevent attacks by scripts with the same ID?

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(1): 警備員[Lv.15(前10)][苗] 05/07(火)15:32 ID:km2/jyaMd(1) AAS
連投ロボットが大砲禁止スレを活用してスクリプトの手助けしているようです
大砲禁止スレでは連投規制・スクリプトに対する規制を強めて欲しいです
2chスレ:livejupiter
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(5): どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.35(前186)][UR武][UR防][木] 05/07(火)15:38 ID:CAP_USER(3/61) AAS
>>18
I will review that and consider it.
Are there any reasons not to re-introduce it?
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(1): 警備員[Lv.4][新初] 05/07(火)15:43 ID:Yuj7LwfU0(3/3) AAS
>>20
I don't know why it was deprecated, so I don't know.
Bringing it back would help alleviate scripts like >>19(Vegan).
22: 警備員[Lv.4(前7)][新苗] 05/07(火)15:45 ID:ejnrXvZzd(1/2) AAS
>>20
スクリプトではない利用者との判別が上手く行かないからでは?
実況板や専門板では同じIDで連投する人がいても不思議ではないし
23: 警備員[Lv.4][新初] 05/07(火)15:46 ID:CBWJg8WI0(1/2) AAS
>>20-21
It wasn't deleted, but there were previous reports that it wasn't working.
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(1): 警備員[Lv.12(前21)][] 05/07(火)15:50 ID:TABttZop0(2/7) AAS
Hi,どんぐりキャノン★
I want you to be able to shoot hunters hiding from the cannon log.
25: 警備員[Lv.2(前7)][新苗] 05/07(火)15:53 ID:EL32ZZpW0(2/5) AAS
>>20
参考になるか分からないがSamba24の過去スレです。
byGoogle検索

【連投規制】Samba24 情報要望スレ その4
2chスレ:operate

2chスレ:operate
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(1): 警備員[Lv.3(前3)][新苗] 05/07(火)15:55 ID:MwgcrGfMd(1/3) AAS
>>20
Hi, どんぐりキャノン★ san.

As you can see from the image, there is an arashi who has automated their cannon to fire indiscriminately.
Would it be possible for you to provide countermeasures against this disruptive player?

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(4): どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.36(前186)][木] 05/07(火)15:59 ID:CAP_USER(4/61) AAS
>26
We made the counter measure of requiring ammo to shoot.
Also, the counter measure of being able to wear armor.

What other kind of counter measure could you recommend?
28: 警備員[Lv.5(前7)][新苗] 05/07(火)16:05 ID:ejnrXvZzd(2/2) AAS
>>27
I said it in >>15 but you're ignoring me, so I'll say it again.
Even if you say you can equip it, the majority of users cannot.
Also, there are many people who don't know about the system because the management doesn't make it known at all.

As a countermeasure
1. Identify malicious users and ban them from UPLIFT
2. Identify malicious users and prevent them from firing cannons with specific hunter IDs

Examples include



>>15で言ってるのに無視してるからもう一度言うけど
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29: 警備員[Lv.4(前3)][新苗] 05/07(火)16:11 ID:MwgcrGfMd(2/3) AAS
>>27
As a hunter, I can defend myself with armor, but I think it would be difficult to require all users to equip armor.

Here are the ideas I can come up with:

Hunters can specify the ID of the opposing hunter and fire cannons at them. Hunters who are shot by multiple hunters temporarily lose their hunter qualification.
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(1): 警備員[Lv.14][初] 05/07(火)16:17 ID:/1KU/cfn0(2/5) AAS
たまたまかもしれないけど、最近暴発してハンターLv.5になるのに会ってない
まえは2-30発撃てばたいてい暴発してたのに
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(1): 警備員[Lv.8][新初] 05/07(火)16:18 AAS
>>30
誤射は4月末になくなった
確率は出るけど必中
その代わり装備持ちを撃つと大乱闘
32: 警備員[Lv.16(前15)][苗] 05/07(火)16:23 ID:pPCWVe8T0(2/2) AAS
>>27
People on bulletin boards that are not 5ch are writing about trolling Hunter.
It seems to be using a script that automatically fires a cannon, which is malicious.
These hunters do not shoot vandals, but continue shooting ordinary people indiscriminately, so 5ch has nothing but the city. You should take uplift.

5chではない掲示板のやつらが、ハンターで荒らしていることを書いている
自動で大砲を撃つスクリプトを使っているようで悪質です。
こういったハンターは荒らしを撃つわけではなく、一般人に無差別に撃ち続けるので5chにとって街しかありません。upliftを取り上げるべきです。

11 エッヂの名無し 2024/05/01(水) 12:51:31.360 ID:gXu47HBZ9
スクリプト組んでラブライブ板荒らしまくってるわ
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(1): 警備員[Lv.6(前7)][苗] 05/07(火)16:23 ID:4z/65hMRa(1/3) AAS
どんキャノンさん

どんぐり板以外ではどんぐりについての説明が行われていないので、書き込めないことやレベルが下がることやどんぐりが枯れることについて、多くの人が不便さを感じています。
各板に説明が必要だと思います。
34: 警備員[Lv.7(前7)][苗] 05/07(火)16:24 ID:4z/65hMRa(2/3) AAS
>>33
Since there is no explanation about acorns other than on the acorn board, many people feel inconvenienced by not being able to write on them, their level dropping, and acorns dying. I think each board needs an explanation.
35: 警備員[Lv.14][苗] 05/07(火)16:25 ID:/1KU/cfn0(3/5) AAS
>>31
そうなんだ知らんかった
俺は連休で浦島になっていたのか
ありがとう
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(1): 警備員[Lv.1][新芽] 05/07(火)16:28 ID:cu+EfTl1r(1) AAS
Dear DonguriCanon,
I agree with the suggestion to hide IDs in the cannon log. >>24
It would have been nice to show only the latest 1000 canon logs, but the site created by the volunteers in >>1 stores all past canon logs, and anyone can search by hunter or guard ID to see what that ID has done in the past.
I feel that the site has lost its value as an anonymous message board because it is now possible to identify which hunters are shooting at and what they are posting across days.
I also feel that the inability of hunters to write with their hunter login for the aforementioned reasons also diminishes the value of charging for the service.
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(1): 警備員[Lv.5(前7)][新苗] 05/07(火)16:38 ID:UNOrRvqod(1) AAS
>>36
そんなもの正しい使い方をしてれば良いだけでしょ
IDは上4桁だから被るし、名称はnanashiなら匿名性が保たれる
悪質なユーザーを取り除かないで匿名性だけを追求してたら崩壊するよ
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(5): どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.39(前186)][木] 05/07(火)16:47 ID:CAP_USER(5/61) AAS
These are very insightful comments. I will analyze and find a solution.
39: 警備員[Lv.8][初] 05/07(火)16:50 ID:D+MDshfp0(1/2) AAS
>>38
Also consider PREMIUM UPLIFT!
40: 警備員[Lv.12][新苗] 05/07(火)16:51 ID:ATD1O57VH(1/2) AAS
>>38
どんぐりシステムに任意のNGハンター機能をつければ解決しない?

How about NG Hunter resistlation sys. on どんぐり May avoid snipers shot
on demando
41: 警備員[Lv.5(前3)][新苗] 05/07(火)16:51 ID:MwgcrGfMd(3/3) AAS
>>38
Thank you for your response!
I hope the Donguri system will become a great one.
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(5): どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.39(前186)][木] 05/07(火)16:52 ID:CAP_USER(6/61) AAS
How can we best describe the donguri system to everybody?
Should the info go into a 924 thread?
What should be written there?
43: 警備員[Lv.20(前14)][R武][SR防][苗] 05/07(火)17:03 ID:XgD6w3dj0(1/4) AAS
>>38
If someone has a problem with a mechanical, indiscriminate barrage of shots, why not create a boomerang that causes outbursts in response to the many held acorns that are a human characteristic?

Or, if you shoot too many acorn-holders, you get on the list (on the 5ch thread would be also OK.) of those who can be shot.
44: 警備員[Lv.2][新初] 05/07(火)17:03 ID:GnQ7cUgor(1) AAS
>>37
仮に英数字4桁がランダムとして偶然一致する確率って100万分の1未満ですよ
少しでも似たような文体、似たような話題なら全部紐付けられると思いますが
過去の書き込みまとめて遡られる可能性がある匿名掲示板なんて存在価値0でSNSの劣化でしょう
正しい使い方してる人が荒らしハンターに撃たれ続ける現状を見て、なお正しい使い方してれば被害に合わないと言い張れるんですか?
それこそプログラム組めば人の過去の書き込み一覧晒す機能も作れちゃいますよ今のままだと
45: 警備員[Lv.4(前7)][新苗] 05/07(火)17:06 ID:EL32ZZpW0(3/5) AAS
>>42
時間が経てばどんぐりシステムは浸透すると思います
まずは"どんぐりシステム"外部リンク:donguri.5ch.net
のサイトを分かり易くする事が優先されるべきかと
簡単なFAQを載せるとか
アイデアはスレの住人が考えてくれると思います
46: 警備員[Lv.20(前14)][R武][SR防][苗] 05/07(火)17:09 ID:XgD6w3dj0(2/4) AAS
>>42
What I think is most important is to let people know that there is no harm in withering messages and that they can just retry.
There have always been too many perplexing restrictions on 5ch, and users will wilt at the slightest error message. Trolls are not afraid of messages, though.
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